Chalky

The split has never healed. You might have had a decent soul night in Cambridge but by and large the oldies newies split was as wide as ever and continued to widen to what we have today. The beginning of the 90's was the start of the decline musically to what we have today, largely a retro backward looking scene. Keele and Blackburn were two of the biggest culprits responsible for starting the decline IMO. That is Blackburn in the 90's, not the late 80's under Guy and his Soultown banner.

What do you mean a split occurring? It was always there long before you came along in the 90's.. You read all the time the affect Mr M's was having on the main room, oldies/newies in the 80's, modern vs. Northern, all these splits and arguement throughout the 70's, 80's, 90's right up to tody as is plainly evident on this board by the constant turnover of topics covering these arguments. You were either a nighter goer or you wasn't. You did both or you didn't. You were into Northern regardless of what type of event you frequented. Back then Northern was cool, it wasn't the kinda joke it is becoming nowadays. Rare soul. Northern soul, modern soul, whatever kinda soul, just go out and enjoy it. If you can't decide where to go these days with the amount of information at your fingertips then there is no hope for you. Everyone has been around long enough and knows who plays what and promotes what to have some idea of what kind of venue they will or won't be attending. F*ck me why do folk have to complicate something that should be really simple?

No read it again, Sooty is implying Rare Soul fans went to nighters and not soul nights. I've always done both.

Dunno about revolutionary your mini bus trips Sooty, we travelled to Scotland in Dean Anderson's in the 80's, down the 100 club with my mate driving smoking cigars that made everyone sick and I was putting mini buses to go more locally, Mansfield etc as two blokes I worked with had em and made some money on the side. Deffo see you at the 100

I would agree with you Mike but what we hear when we are out is not necessarily what we would listen to at home and not all of it is soul music. I don't use either term at home but socially you can't really get away from them and a scene has to have a name. Like you say though it is either good or bad, rare or otherwise.

I knew I could count on you Len

I don't think I'd have been as pleasant as you nor waited till I got home to say summat ;) If I'd have been the promoter they would have been warned then ejected if they carried on.

Fook me Sooty, can't you give a simple answer to a simple question.? once I've deciphered your posts it would appear none of us have done it properly except the sold out mini bus. You are talking bollox to say a Rare Soulie only went to allnighters and not soul nights. As I said before the licensing laws changed we all went to the local soul night...local as in the same town or city or with in striking distance of the nighter. If it was 100 Club it was often the last services on the M1 where we all met up, Scratchwood as it was then. And believe me I've done some night trips in me time, as have many many more, hardcore as you call it......we weren't snoring on the way home either

Are you sayingif you only did nighters you were into Rare Soul? If you did both you were into Northern Soul? When nighters started at midnight or after the pubs shut I and all my mates always went to a soul night. First or the services or a pub if travelling. Mind you we wouldn't have gone to a warm in Cambridge for a nighter in London

Yes but much of what is played at an "oldies" night is/are rare soul! Wasn't it Rare Soul before Northern Soul? I would prefer Rare Soul rather than Northern Soul. Either way both are simply a name for this scene.

I think Brian was the first now you mention it Pete. Looks like what happened with this track Kev before Kent got to the rightful owners.

Hi Pete hope you are well. I think that flyer for the four beat one, I think that date was cancelled, Belle Vue is it? Tony Smith will tell you for sure. Mucky Duck was a great venue. You are right though it was vibrant despite what those who weren't there say. I was doing basically two allnighters a weekend, plus bank holidays and at least one soul night which was usually the warm up for the nighter. Thanks everyone for the comments, I've more in the garage, I might get a bit of time later to add to it.

Guy Hennigan spin at Stafford, sold to Ion then Tony Smith who then sold it to Carl Fortnum who still has it. Another turned up last year which Phil T won off eBay.

Oops...

Japanese cd first then the first legit release was Kent a couple of years ago as far as I am aware. The cd is where the first cuts were taken from, Eddie Hubbard's I think.

not sure if it does, click on the flickr link in my signature, that should work.

Have to say today's flyers are absolutely useless for making notes on. Who ever thought of glossy professional looking flyers

I used to have them stuck or pinned up all over my room. Usually because they had some record or other info scribbled on them from a night out.

Thanks Nick, long time no see and hope all is well. I've got many of your Scenesville flyers that I haven't scanned yet. Plenty more in the garage, just got to find the time to scan them.

Any in particular? I think the year I added to the title so if you look on flickr you might see it? If not let me know any in particular and I will tell you.

I scanned all these for the book that's just come out but none were used in the end. I thought I'd put them up for those who are interested. https://www.flickr.com/photos/crosseyedbear/sets/72157636285503745/

Not splitting hairs Dave, I read it as though they all came from same source? Just stating they didn't and the labels were different. Here's Brenda one....

I can't believe that is the same group who sang If I Had One Gold Piece!

couple of patches as well for sale fiver each

Weren't the others plain white labels though? I remember sorting them out into packs when Andy had a load left. 8 per pack I think but not all had suspicion as that had sold out.