Chalky

the comments on YT say most of the footage was from a documentary called The Sound Of¯»¿ The Crowd.

There has been more than the one listed in popsike on ebay. Seen a few over the years.

Omnibus was the program. Details are in the comments.

The one where he has no shirt on and three lasses is a granada show I think. If you look for the Sweets track on Youtube the goo0d one by Bigcityrob or something like that all the info is in the comments.

I think if Kev Roberts thought a monthly Kings Hall would work he would have done it by now. Two saying s come to m ind, less is better and quality not quantity. Kings Hall is fantastic as an oldies all-nighter. I wish every all-nighter had the same capacity and atmosphere.

But the Sweets is still a bootleg, no one gained financially except the bootlegger. I can't see the point doing a cut from an LP, just take the LP with you. Why spend £20 on a cut when you can spend that elsewhere.

Has anyone said it is wrong to put on a local soul night? I don't remember reading that bit. The biggest complaint locally would appear to be the number and in some cases the quality (whatever the policy). I've already said there are two venues just a few miles apart on this weekend and another not too far up the road....does that make sense to you? Sure as hell doesn't to me.

The only place I've ever honestly felt unwelcome was at an oldies venue.

Peggy, don't think Kings Hall is monthly and many who attend there plan for it and don't even attend other allnighters.

Unissued material has been played off an emi disc carver or whatever you want to call it for decades, even by those at the top of the dj tree. If you have permission and the only original source is tape what is wrong with that? We would never have heard some fantastic recordings if followed what some say.

If it's unissued get it cut. If a promoter wants to allow the use of bootlegs then he or she should say so then people can make up their own mind whether to attend or not.......simple really.

shouldn't this topic be in events?

Can we take the personal stuff to PM's or simply ignore?

When I was 18 soul nights and all-nighters catered for what I wanted. All the DJ's were allowed to use imagination, all sought the next new big record. You went to a nighter but you went to a local soul night before hand. Sure there was still the politics, they've always been there regardless what people think. It still does cater for what I want but on a lot smaller scale, most all-nighters don't have anything new and there is a ridiculous amount of promoters and promotions clashing. As I said in an earlier post 21 venues all local to me, some towns/cities with several events in one weekend some just a few miles apart on the same night. Today time, family, work, money, all have an influence in what we do at the weekend and we want to utilise all of those the best way we can yet all the clashing is having an adverse affect on our nights out. Sure there are venues that cater for everyone but they could be and should be so much better, especially locally. Grumbling and moaning has always been there too, the same argument we have now have always been there too, oldies vs. newies etc. Back in the day you didn't have an outlet at your finger tips to express your feelings and opinions like you have now with soul source. You had to send a letter to one of the few magazines running and by the time it was printed the argument was probably irrelevant by then......that is why you seem to get more grumbling and moaning but in reality nothing has changed just the method.

I don't disagree with you Win, there are many who do enjoy themselves. However you quoting me has taken my quote completely out of context, I was replying specifically to the question that there seems to be a lot of complaints/moaning about "top 500" yet why no complaints in lookbacks. You should have quoted the original question not me. The way forward is for promoters to look at the bigger picture not just selfish reasons and for more tolerance from both oldies lovers and the more "upfront" lovers of soul music or more to the point Northern Soul. One can't do without the other, the good newer discoveries still filter down eventually but I guess the oldies scene doesn't need the "newies" scene as much as the "newies" scene needs the oldies crowd, certainly on the all-nighter front.

I'm of the opinion that if you are going to promote and take money of people on the door then you should at least go to the trouble of hearing any dj you book. A cd doesn't give a fair reflection of someone's ability behind the decks and in laying down a set.

There are already soul weeks aren't there. Admittedly in the sun abroad but they are about. Soul cruises as well. Saga for the soulie.

Maybe most are of the opinion that if nowt good to say then don't say owt.

Promoters are the problem not punters. Just looked local to me and there are 21 promotions this weekend. Saturday, there is Wakefield, Knottingly and Leeds, all within close proximity to each other, especially Wakefield and Knottingly which are just 20 minutes apart. Surely it would be better too have one packed promotion than three with smaller poorer attendances. Not saying who is in the right or wrong...all three might be packed but from what I have heard that is far from the case at times. There are more than one event in places like Sheffield and Barnsley with two or more within 30 minutes drive of each other. I dare say this is repeated all over the country? Surely at some point common sense has to take over? Maybe it is time promoters got together, put on a bigger event locally, catering for everyone, oldies with other stuff intelligently mixed with some imagination? Attendees have also got to do their part and accept they won't like every record, accept others will like what they won't and show a bit of patience and understanding. This would all make for a healthier and stronger scene, not just locally but nationally too.

There's about 30 listed in events/weekenders up until September next year I think. Thats world wide but I guess not everyone uses SS to advertise. Still the equivalent of over two per month between now and then.

It will only turn into an oldies vs. newies topic if folks turn it into one. The topic is about the number of events on at the moment.

Just had a listen Steve, very similar, especially the horns.

It's on Hitbound. It's also on one of the Ol Virginia CDs.

Unless Kitch decides to sell his and put a sound file with his sale then NO, no sound file, not until refosoul is back up and running.

Those with more money than sense survive, the quality ones are usually the ones to suffer.