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couldn't even get mine to watch this trailer

Think the dance tutorial videos posted earlier in this thread have been around for a while and are off the back of the growth in popularity amongst those of a certain age and exposure of the music as the retro music of choice for promotional/ commercial purposes over the last 13 (?) years. Not sure that the forthcoming film is going to have a massive impact in terms of attracting more over 40's or that its going to appeal to the majority of the i-tunes generation.......will be like me watching the James Dean & Brando 50's youth culture movies when I was a kid, found them interesting but they didn't make me hanker for a DA and leather bike jacket to jive in..............that was for the old farts. My bet is that there may be more media exposure of the scene following the release of the film but not a massive influx of new soul fans..........but who knows?

Saw it happening at a big weekender in Wales in March, which shall remain nameless........it was like someone gutting a pig just before you bit into your bacon butty. People standing in groups on the dance floor and practicing spins 'n stuff is also a real downer to me. Completely in favour of welcoming newcomers and whilst there's nothing wrong in people teaching them a few moves at home, I don't think its possible to teach how "we" dance. Don't think I've ever seen two people dance exactly the same? When I started there was a group of six of us all the same age and going to the same venues, hearing the same stuff and all observing and trying to emulate the same top boys......but we all dance completely differently to each other. We had to serve a bit of an apprenticeship and did all the practicing at home....you just wouldn't get up unless you were capable and knew the record well enough. That said, the young 'uns in the forthcoming film have been taught to dance, but I would submit, on a very intensive level and within quite a narrow range of styles and I feel that was only possible because they developed a taste and feel for the music.

Never been or wanted to be a DJ........so not really qualified to comment on that level ....but as someone speaking from the floor and who's been at enough events when TW's been on the decks to comment, just sounds like a case of "burn out" to me ....don't you dare sack it.....that's an order!!!

Well that bit looks good to me

.......at least she;'s inquisitive about what type of stuff you're playing.....mine just shouts "put your headphones on"!!

Was that (the star inn ?) in Failsworth ?........went to one like that when I was over one time mid 90's

Yes Levi's up there ..... Shake me wake me - Something about you - Bernadette.....for me

Stockport town is pretty much like the other Manchester "satellite" towns, but some of the suburbs and bordering villages are pretty up market and occupied by the "Cheshire Set".

we didn't and I am only speaking from my personal recollection

My recollection is that people on the scene never adopted the the term "northern soul" when it was originally coined, choosing to distance themselves from the mainstream perception depicted in the media when it originally popped up on the radar. "Rare or obscure Soul" were more acceptable terms.

What I don't understand is demands to maintain exclusivity for what is claimed to be an exclusive, cool underground scene........but complaints from those who profess to be on that scene of a lack of exposure of their music at the big "Divvy"events, which in the next breath get slagged for being populated by "the great unwashed", "divs" and "returnees"? Why would you want exposure of the underground scene on prime time TV if you want to keep it cool and exclusive? Bit of a contradiction really, as is levelling a tirade of insults at people from other parts of the scene and then complaining when those under attack retort with the label "chin strokers". End of the day, there are several different aspects of the scene all doing their own thing and evolving in different directions, regardless of how you try to dictate how any of them should develop.

Sam Cox - life is love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M588G3OCmH8 ....new to me too.....like the horn break

Towanda Barnes - you don't mean it will blow your socks off.......don't know where you'll get "the dots" though? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptww3z5rnb8

Hacienda was a great club and comparing it with Wigan doesn't really illustrate the similarities that I personally saw between Wigan and say an all-niter at Legends in Warrington would. I started going to the Hacienda in '84 before what I know of the rave culture got started.

Same here mate.........still wouldn't be seen dead in them now though

Fair do's on the organised crime aspect. I can only spek from my personal experience and I had the horrors a lot more on the soul scene than I did anywhere else and saw a lot more bother there than I ever saw amongst the loved up masses on the rave scene

Not saying they were alike musically other than in tempo. They were alike from the average end-user's perspective. All drug scenes are sinister......Wigan could be very f&cking sinister.

Everyone I knew at Wigan/Mecca/Ritz took gear. We wore parallels mostly when the mainstream were wearing flares, then we wore the bags first and they came in the mainstream after us....only they wore big f*ck off platforms whereas we wore flat leather soles....don't remember seeing solatios til late 76/77? Straight legs came in after the new wave, 77/78 and the Mecca lot were the first to wear them. The martial arts was only done by....erm....martial artists and was deffo not the source of the dance style.....which has never been surpassed. The Rave scene of the late 80's early 90's was like the soul scene of the mid-seventies without the b*llox and with better drugs.

People commemorate the anniversary of peoples' deaths so not sure the promoters need to adopt another name for celebrating a passed event. As to the motive for advertising any event, cash has got to be a factor surely? Not saying there aren't bullsh*tters in attendance.......but that's not exclusive to the oldies circuit is it? I suspect that there are also a fair number of people at the WC Celebrations who were around first time around but they just get lumped in with the other unworthies and that's what I object to.....more fool me.

Take your point mate....also on the cashing in on the commercial scale.....but still think that people should be able to celebrate one club as much as any other.

Ouch!!!

Not sure that people who attend events aimed at celebrating music from a soul club from the past are under the illusion that the club is still open or that people with an interest in records synonymous with such clubs are actually preventing the emergence of previously undiscovered records or the exposure of underplayed records. Do you apply that logic to focusing on other soul clubs.....e.g. celebrating 50 years since the twisted wheel opened or the spirit of Albrighton? I totally appreciate and respect the fact that people feel passionate about the ethos of discovering "new" stuff but wouldn't the mission to educate the masses be better served by encouraging and welcoming people with an open mind rather than prejudice and ridicule? I sincerely hope that the "underground" aspect of the scene grows from strength to strength and that the upholding of values like "OVO" and the better recognition of the discoveries and personalities from the post 70's is achieved........but do something about it......go to the existing events.....Lifeline, Kestrel Suite, S.O.A....make them the nights that others get to hear about and want to attend and don't make then feel that they will be alienated there. Everyboy's got to start somewhere so they tend to go for the most accessible and better known places, that means you got to get their attention if you want them, if you don't want them then just bat on.