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At Stoke & Keele his floor is rammed, honest, LOL !

Well I can add to that list - there's a few tracks that I like that only Chris King appears to have

Fair point should said venues be able to get said DJs etc, but as stated already if original vinyl is constantly played, its gonna wear out at somepoint ........................

Ooops, thanks Chalky - got my Andys mixed up, LOL

Kev, with the greatest respect you are completely missing the point ! Yes in the early days if we havent of had ppl like Searling & Levine to name just two, going to the states searcing for vinyl, we wouldnt of had the tunes we have now, they would of probably been destroyed ! But the actual point here is that vinyl is "old hat" and in the good old days you didn't attend The Torch. The Mecca or Wigan cos you wanted to travelled in such cases hundreds of miles to get to that venue, you went there because vinyl was our only music media then and only certain DJs had the sounds you wanted to hear and they were employed by certain venues Thats gone, new techo is avail, so the scene needs to change to survive, hence why and I understand why KR says some of the things he says for example. Maybe we'll spilt into OVO only for the minority and other venues for the masses who want a good night and listen to quality sets and not bothered what its played from /?? Just saying...............

Well there you go see, you are becoming the minority, especially when venues are springing up left, right and centre - any more and the scene will blow out IMO As explained this vinyl isn't going to last forever and it needs radical thought if the scene is to get into the next few decades. The only ones that can do and make this happen on the scene today would be some of the ones with the greatest risk but top top DJs like RS, IL and CD could start to play off laptop and have the vinyl to hand. btw Playing acetates at a OVO event is a piss take especially when an original is avail, not every record is like Shirley Turner for example and NO I wont attend an OVO event on principle now, I now have a wide variety ofg options unlike when I went to Wigan, as I simply couldnt hear those sounds ANYWHERE else. Steve you have to play the music ppl want to dance or possible listen to OR they wont return - simples

I've recently watched Soul Boy again and I've warmed to it slightly, as I did watching NS teh Movie 2nd time round I really think if you mixed the good bits of both Soul Boy, NS the Movie and Paul Mason's Culture documentary together with a "backdrop" ( pardon the pun ) with Mr Parmers '70 work you would be onto a winner !

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Correct Mr Roberts..... This OVO malarkey is old hat now, it only really survived years ago at major venues because vinyl is all we had, had we some of the techo we have now, me and most of my friends wouldnt of travelled to Wigan as we could of stayed local and heard the music that we wanted to hear & dance to - that is what ppl seem to not understand. OVO is hyped up for ppl who where lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time with enough money. For those with great collections, alot of money could be at sake.... To go on, I wouldn't mind if I went to a major venue and they played off a laptop, i'd still pay £ 15 or whatever to get in - infact the sound quality id far better ! :-) With regards the DJs - I want to hear amazing & proper NS you can dance to, not hear stuff that someone has paid large amounts of money for, Kev get rid of the DJs with expense OVO collections and get DJs who know what the audience want to play. I would say to those who have great OVO collections, keep them clean, in their boxes and play from an other media but at least play a quality set like Chris King ! Rant over, LOL

Possibly although Box Office movies are encrypted so as to stop you doing this iirc

A great sound - thats what is it, LOL But joking apart....its the inevitable commercial reaction to a potential rebirth of the scene by a blast from our NS past...... as said already its no different to the reissues sitting alongside the Movie by HR Remember OVO isn't everything, the music is what matters and I think you will find in time that if our scene regenerates itself, the new "young" bred unless they are really wealthly they wouldn't on the whole be interested in pieces of vinyl and it will become even a more niche that it is now - the majority of top sounds are available via iTunes and/or Youtube now so what was a necessity in the olden days, isnt such a priority now... but time will tell

Think its too late in the day for that now, however I would be pushing for work to be started on part.2, while both confidence and interest is high.....

Well, I was hugely disappointed with it as I couldn't totally relate to what the storyline was achieving, having attended the Casino '77/78 Musically it was sound but that was never doing to be a bone of contention with the ppl they had to advise, the site design was first class and I was pleased that JA and Soul Bowl were mentioned as without ppl like him we wouldnt of had a scene or some of the top sounds we know take for granted. Was it the right title to use ? Not in my opinion as NS seemed to be the backdrop and the the upward struggle for the main characters Reading some of the comments here I can agree with most of them, I can even accept Ian Dewhirst's statement even though he does have a commercial interest. My main concern is when we ( the ppl who were actually there ) are all long gone and ppl watch this to try and get some kind of prospective of how it truly was, I just hope they just don't accept this as the absolute representation of how it was and at least watch Paul Masons brilliant documentary via the BBC Culture Show and the original Granada documentary as a balance.

Cheers Dave

Suspicion (Brian Holland-Lamont Dozier-Edward Holland Jr) publ. Jobete The Originals; recorded Hitsville, completed 14-Apr-66 ; produced by Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier ; [version 1] 25-May-66 [acetate]; 45 (M): CCMN 0979-NHDD 23-Mar-98; CD (M): Debutante 530 814 2 This Is Northern Soul! Volume 2 [uK] 23-Mar-99; CD (M): Motown 31454 9506 2 The Very Best Of The Originals 28-Jun-01; CD (E): Spectrum 556 827 2 Northern Soul Connoisseurs [uK] 02-May-05; CD (M): Motown 067 024 2 This Is Northern Soul! The Motown Sound Volume 1 [uK] 06-Nov-06; CD (M): Reader's Digest RDCD 5411-3 The Ultimate Motown Collection - Dance Party The Originals; recorded Hitsville-GW, completed 25-Jun-71 ; produced by C.P. Spencer ; [version 2] [rel date unknown] [acetate]; 45 (M): National Sound Corporation

Originals was covered up as "The Prophets" iirc

Don't know if this has been recently discussed, but I'm curious how this will pans out...... Legal Battle Ensues Over Fate of Broadway-Aimed Stax Records Jukebox Musical By Adam Hetrick 14 Aug 2014 Evergreen Media Holdings announced plans Aug. 13 to develop a film and subsequent Broadway jukebox musical based on the history of R&B and soul label Stax Records. The news follows a separate announcement in July that Concord Music Group and Grammy Award-winning producer Stuart Benjamin were also at work to bring the story to the stage. Academy Award-winning "20 Feet From Stardom" director Morgan Neville is attached to produce the Evergreen film/stage projects that will be based on the Robert Gordon book "Respect Yourself: Stax Records and the Soul Explosion." Evergreen has signed exclusive deals with Gordon and Rondor Music International, which has publishing rights to the majority of the Stax Records catalogue. A lawsuit filed by Evergreen-Rondor states that Rondor Music International "holds the exclusive publishing rights to the vast majority, e.g., approximately ninety-nine percent (99%), of Stax Records' catalog of iconic songs," while Concord only "holds the exclusive rights to the physical masters of certain Stax Records sound recordings." Owning the rights to the sound recordings may not be enough to get Concord's project to the stage, according to the lawsuit. The lawsuit continues: "Accordingly, Rondor — and not Concord — has the exclusive rights to license the publishing rights to said Compositions to third-parties and to otherwise use or exploit the Compositions for, among other things, legitimate stage productions (e.g., a Broadway musical production). In order for a legitimate stage musical to be produced using the Compositions, it requires, in any and all circumstances, the grant of the publishing rights for the Compositions. Rondor controls said publishing rights and at no time did Rondor grant those publishing rights to Defendants." However, Concord's ownership of the original masters mean that were Evergreen-Rondor to push forward with a film of "Respect Yourself," the project would be unable to utilize the original recordings owned by Condor. New recordings would have to be made. In addition, the lawsuit states that Concord and Evergreen-Rondor had been in discussions to move forward with the project jointly; however, Concord pushed forward with a press release announcing the stage musical despite being admonished by Evergreen. The Concord release, which indicated a 2016 Broadway arrival for the musical, was issued prior to any official agreement between both parties. Concord, reached by the Hollywood Reporter, stated, "The lawsuit is utterly without merit. Other than that, we have no comment." Evergreen/Rondor's lawsuit states that Concord's premature announcement has "scared away financial investors and made it virtually impossible" for Evergreen to move forward with plans for the film and stage musical. Despite the lawsuit, Evergreen issued its own release about the upcoming film-stage production. Here's how it's billed: "Set in 1960s Memphis against the turbulent height of the civil rights movement, 'Respect Yourself' details the true story of the origins of Stax Records and how at that pivotal point in history, two most unlikely business partners - a white banker and a black radio disc jockey -- at the risk of their own personal safety, come together through their common love of music to create a new genre of Memphis Soul Music. In the process, and against all odds, they build one of the most important and influential record labels of the modern era, Stax Records." "While Evergreen is known for commercially successful branded properties and true stories, it is rare to come across such a unique true story such as Respect Yourself. Like other 'prestige projects' including '12 Years a Slave' or 'The Butler,' which are wonderful ensemble pieces which were imbued with Academy Award potential, the 'Respect Yourself' story, combined with the world-renowned and enduring Stax music, makes Evergreen's feature film project exponentially more commercially viable," said Evergreen CEO Tony DeRosa-Grund in a statement. "Our goal is to simultaneously develop the Stax feature film and Broadway musical. Our plan is to first release the film then very shortly thereafter, open the Broadway musical version of 'Respect Yourself.' By employing this model, the musical can take significant advantage of the millions of dollars spent on the promotion of the film." Songs to be featured include "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay," "Green Onions," "Knock On Wood," "Soul Man," "I'll Take You There," "In The Midnight Hour" and "The Theme from Shaft." Stax Records nurtured the careers of Otis Redding, Isaac Hayes, Booker T. & the MG’s, The Staple Singers, Albert King, Johnnie Taylor, Eddie Floyd, William Bell, David Porter, Steve Cropper, and Rufus and Carla Thomas and more. extracted from:- https://m.playbill.com/news/article/legal-battle-ensues-over-fate-of-broadway-aimed-stax-records-jukebox-musica-326780 Strange enough thinking back - how Carla Thomas's track on Kent / Horaces stated different publishing agents - did they have prior knowledge of this situation and played it safe... lol

Cheers you're a genius !

Perhaps you could return the favour Pete and tell me what the following is cos its doing my head in, lol what_is_this_track.mp3

I know Pete - I'm still getting to terms with that - lol Checkout their other stuff !!!!!

Infact Pete if you go to Audio Network - they have 7 different mixes of this track ~! https://www.audionetwork.com/production-music/just-give-me-a-chance_52168.aspx

Yes that was me too, LOL ps> I'd love to meet the person responsible for selection of tracks on that show !!!

Hi Pete Its called "Just give me a chance " by Terry Devine-King / Steve Levine hth Richard

I would have to agree and basically what PROPHONICS 2029 states above would possibly support that idea ......... ie. this is the only release with changed artwork and therefore pressed elsewhere But if you follow that through, this implies that the Al Scott is the true Original and the Mr Soul release is the later re-issue pressing, which the subsequent copies are based upon doesn't it ??

All is relative though..... First of all referring to Mal C's post you need to decide which came first - Al Scott or Mr Soul, production wise not which was actually played first.