Sutty

the world has truly gone mad, this is a great record for certain, but over £100? it was a £20 record 2 months ago, and nobody was interested in buying it anyway!

how tragic that the scene these records were made for/on has petered out to a few specialist nights, partly because people got ripped off for too long at dance clubs with over-pricing and other reasons, partly because rock music is fashionable again instead with the younger generation - and in the UK, partly because the UK soul scene actively discouraged and slagged off these very records at the time, in person and in print, as 'that's not soul music' 1000 or so extra sales of 'father' at the time would have made a big difference to soundmen-on-wax still being in the business of releasing more great records by the Bobiens. Now it's all too late and the only ones who might benefit are the second hand record dealers. at least it's finally accepted that Kenny is soulful! cheers Sutty

its the other side of 'i won't hold it against you', and also on the lp 'tellin it like it is' on bell (and there are other 45 and non-45 tracks on the lp that are just as awesome, if you like that track the lp is a no-brainer) - check 'i've got to go on without you' in a similar vein (45 and lp) cheers Sutty

lol, i wasn't trying to do anything, just messing about for a few mins. there never were any horns on the recording anyway

there's going to be a glut of these (there's another version just released on 45 as well) as there parts have been leaked out, i've got these ones and several others - what's going on/mercy, mercy me/ain't nothing like the real thing/ain't no mountain high enough, plus some other artists (Stevie Wonder 'superstition', Bob Marley, etc). The one you're talking about has taken the basic track and re-edited it and added a dub-like echo to the guitar part. I was messing about with the track a while back and did some rough mixes without strings, i'll find them and load one or two up (then you can all have a good laugh!) cheers Sutty

Craig is 101% a great seller, excellent packaging, perfect gradings, and he is cheaper than almost anyone else on postage from the USA. I ordered a record off him recently and it took a month to come through so don't panic - he pulled it out and checked it before sending, noticed a tiny edge-chip on it, mailed me and offered a full refund or 50% off. when it arrived it was exactly as described and played perfectly, like every other record i've ever bought from him. There's a reason why people Craig and John Manship have done so well selling records - they're really reliable sellers. cheers Sutty

pm'ed ya Russ

According to a mate of mine who saw him a couple of years back, he bears more than a passing resemblence vocally to Al Murray the pub landlord when he's singing live

p.s. Russ it's worth getting the was a bee version as well, the b-side is also excellent, it's a cover of 'on a clear day' similar to the peddlers version, i think you're gonna like it

you've been turning up late for modern soul do's then standing outside chatting instead of being in the room Russ i'm sure you'll find both 12"'s on the net with a google search and a little patience, was a bee came out 2004, mario bondi solo version 2006, both on schema https://www.discogs.com/release/355344 https://www.discogs.com/release/867202 good to see you Saturday, cheers Paul

as i recall the first batch of vise 45's came via Ian Clarke, he sold it to Keb, and he scratched the address out with a pin on all his copies to stop anyone finding out his source. So he told me anyway! it looked like the one in the scan (albeit without the pin scratching done on the label), so I guess more copies have turned up - which leads to the age-old question - why has he price gone up if there are more on the market now lol

Boz made many albums with great tracks on, if you like the 'what's going on' sound check 'here to stay' on 'boz scaggs and band' on CBS. also recommend self-titled and my time on Atlantic (both recorded at muscle shoals), silk degrees, down two then left, slow dancer, moments, my time , middle man. i've heard and played Boz several times in modern rooms to a good reaction. You can't beat a bit-a-Boz!

no offence, but have you actually bothered to search out/listen to any new soul music in the last couple of years, or are you relying on what is being played by unimaginative dj's in 'modern soul' rooms backed onto northern events? I can understand that comment from someone who may be subjected to stuff like neo and some soulfuric soundalike record month in-month out, but not from someone who is open to new soul material and has searched some out. it's the same as always, there is quality music being made, you just have to look for it, but hasn't that been the case for years and years? cheers Sutty

anybody mentioned John and the Wierdest - both sides? they don't come much rougher than that surely?

JOHNSON, HAWKINS, TATUM AND DURR - Your Love Keeps Drawing Me Closer / You Can't Blame Me [Capsoul] VG++, 2 stunning sides, 15 now 12 the b-side of this just awesome mid-tempo, very unusual arrangement if anyone doesn't know it and is into the deeper side of things

now you are getting ridiculous Baz, where are you going to get a camp-sounding effeminate soul music impresario to take the role on?

sounds good, also, why don't they get Steve Austin but with a twist - he's got a bionic ear and can tell a record of hit-making-potential before he's even heard it, just by looking at the grooves with his bionic eye, then he does the splits with his bionic legs, jumps in the air, does a really fast spin and when he comes out of it he's become wonder woman. she strips off in the middle of the dancefloor, then pans people suddenly appear and start dancing round her to hide the embarrassment, the crowd all cheer and we're off into the intro of 'footsie'...

The film's Oscar-nominated costume designer, Elvis Davis, who worked with Mel Gibson on Braveheart and has recently been in Bulgaria working with Jean-Claude Van Damme Why don't they get Jean-Claude Van Damme to be undercover drugs squad, he could abseil down the side of the building and crash in and raid the toilets during the allnighter, then get Mel Gibson in (as some kind of three-way love-interest type thing) - Mel storms into the venue on horseback covered in warpaint with his shirt off to beat Jean-Claude in an epic 10-minute battle for the kids rights to take paracetamol (you could use maybe JoBoxers or some other old northern tune in the background, then when Jean-Claude is suitably punished and ripped into bits, the kids could all dance around in celebration to 'i go to pieces'), then Mel whisks away the female part of the love-triangle and takes her Bulgaria. Because they don't know what they are doing, that's why.

i think the clue is that they keep using the words 'back drop' when describing the northern content of the film, if you can understand that then you have your answer really

i'm looking at launching a film about an internet forum in 2008 discussing another film, the catch being nobody has seen the script to the second film. The main theme would be around how it's not authentic to be showing people throwing paracetamol around a town hall foyer, with the action revolving around some kind of duel outside the overflowing toilets involving maybe swords or muskets, or if I can get enough people in military costume then two opposing teams - one with a nintendo wii and the other with a chieftan tank, to define the different era's. I'll hum the background music during the love scenes, then Gavin Page comes on as Telly Savalas ('commando' style of course) in the tank and fires a huge cannon of fire against a black and white portable TV containing a picture of Ian Levine with a northern soul cd in his hand, as Ian is claiming it's responsible for the largest ever number of tesco club card points ever amassed since the power cuts. Winner gets to leave the internet forum in a hillman imp and obviously the Javells would be mentioned at some point, possibly in the opening credits or during a jostling door-entry scene featuring an old woman and a bloke that looks like an audience member from an old episode of 'wheeltappers and shunters', and the film crew would all need to be tw*ts and dress in clown pants. Without giving away too much of the plot or contents, it's in a long-forgotten northern town. We're talking about huge groups of people throwing themselves around in a disused warehouse to the latest Duffy album, the main couple snogging at a bus stop whilst several Michael Jackson look-a-likes with one white glove on each moonwalk in unison in the background across a zebra crossing, plus the reformation of the black and white minstrels for authenticity of the good old days - or possibly even 'the good old days' series itself being revived for the scene on the pier, where the main villian of the film rides off the end into the sea on a raleigh chopper, subtly expressing his disgust in the crass commercialisation of allowing Anne Diamond into the venue once for a mini-nighter. In the closing credits, a huge fire starts and we're left with the lovers standing in a council car park eating a meat pie. i'm convinced this is a goer if anyone has access to a chieftan tank?

the quality picks version is missing the stunning backing vocals, for the better version go for 'the wheat from the chaff' by the made-up genres on tinny

ah well i was only answering the question, even if it was a week late. unfortunately, that still leaves you a year late in actually buying the 45 when it came out for £2.99 off juno

this is it, not as long ago as I remembered, just this time last year: https://www.phonicarecords.co.uk/detail.aspx?ID=23503

it was pressed on a 45 a fewyears back as a look-a-like USA tamla white demo, I have one somewhere, i'll try and find it and let you know for sure and what the b-side is. excellent sound quality straight from the cd I expect. as you're in brighton and i'm in hove, actually, i can probably sell it to ya fo' cash if you want it? cheers Sutty

seeing as you brought it up on here, although why I fail to see, it must be eating away at you LOL - you were suspended from EMS not because of the music people do and don't like on there, but because your flurry of mails consisted of personal insults to other members telling them to 'go f**k themselves' and the like, and not for the first time. So stop playing all superior and hurt and accept the fact that you continually broke forum rules and were just being personally insulting to the other members, and generally behaving like a spoilt immature child. bye