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I remember being at a local event which isn’t exactly the zenith or height of quality musically and one guy kept sitting on the floor demanding everyone does the oops upside your head dance… a couple weeks later I’m sat at home scrolling through Facebook and I see a video of the same club and there’s about 12 of them at it 🤣

There are lots of songs that spring to mind and I’m one of those people that find it very difficult to place artistic things higher than one another because I usually like them for different reasons but here are a handful that do it for me that haven’t been mentioned yet. Tears Of Joy - Ray Merrell Danny White - Keep My Woman Home September Jones - I’m Coming Home Woman, Love Thief - Stemmons Express/Such Misery - The Precisions Do You Think There’s A Chance - Luther Ingram Got To Have Your Love - Roy Roberts

Saving My Love For My Baby is one by her that I love and play out every now and again. Penned by JJ Barnes so has a fair bit of Detroit about it, has the mouth organ solo to end all harmonica solos & is really cheap at around 20ish pounds.

I've spoken to Nancys husband who I occasionally buy records off (Nev Griffiths) and said she had collected a good few off of the label and also said he thinks she got 5K for her copy many moons ago... Regarding volume of copies he said its anyones guess but probably into double figures as plenty of older rare soul djs have copies.

Hmm, would be interesting to know how many are currently in circulation.. Makes you think what sort of numbers Flodavieur pressed records in, obviously there's a few on the imprint that have the right sound.

Now you mention it... I think thats what he said as well. I was half cut at the time in all fairness! Someone else (Can't remember who now) also told me Roger Banks used to play the same version around the same time.

Fairdos... Can you remember who by? I was told there was only few known copies.

Quite random this thread has come up and one i'm glad to have seen.. I was talking to Keb after Heart of Soul in Lewisham and he was trying to remember the name of the artist cos I often play the original cut by Rodge Martin & had read he used to play Susan Rewis' version at Stafford.

Only person I’ve ever heard play Love Slave (Antellects)

Haha nice try officer 🤣

Interesting thread. I remember this being shared about on facebook in the past couple of years... Wonder which Beatle the 2nd Aretha was for?

2 CLASSIC R&B FLOOR FILLRS IN THE RARER VARIANTS UP FOR GRABS TO FUND A WANT NM LITTLE WILLIE JOHN - £140 VG+ ALBERT WASHINGTON & THE KINGS - SOLD PAYMENT BY BANK TRANSFER ADD 4/8 POUND FOR POST

Looking for a copy of this record, please let me know if you have one and are looking to sell.

Agreed... Best fist 🤣

Do you have a clearer image of the second badge, it's hard to find a decent quality image of it anywhere online.

Pocket change uptown RnB that has all the mod cons… £3.50 including post

Here is another article that came out 3 days ago related to the release of the documentary & an image of the cover of his memoir which was released yesterday along with a review from the Guardian. CBS Article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sly-stone-memoir-sly-and-the-family-stone/ Guardian review: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/09/thank-you-falettinme-be-mice-elf-agin-by-sly-stone-review-euphoric-expression-and-drug-crazed-chaos

Comes up if you google 100 club bbc radio, it's listed underneath where the play button would have been. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001q70x San Remo Golden Strings The Festival Time Melvin Hicks & The Versatiles The Intruder Little Ann Who Are You Trying To Fool The Magicians (Just A Little) Faith And Understanding Carolyn Crawford Ready Or Not Here Comes Love Eddie Daye & The 4 Bars Guess Who Loves You Ben E. King Gettin' To Me Johnny Maestro & The Crests I'm Stepping Out Of The Picture Chuck Jackson What's With This Loneliness The San Francisco TKO's Make Up Your Mind Little Johnny Hamilton Keep On Movin' Maxine Brown It's Torture Melba Moore The Magic Touch Lorraine Chandler You Only Live Twice The Marvellos It's Your Love That I Need Carla Thomas I'll Never Stop Loving You

Looking for a copy of a blue eyed tune I missed on eBay not very long ago Bobby Lile - The Hangout on Rollo Records Feel free to message me on here or Facebook if you have a copy and are looking to sell Thanks

I always thought Cheatin Kind was Mecca tune tbf & admittedly only found out recently how rare it actually is because I always knew it was way out of my reach but I had no clue it was played in Cleethorpes until I saw this video.

Interesting, never knew Cheatin Kind was first played in Cleethorpes!

I personally, absolutely love playing cheap records loud & I'm pleased that someone else thinks that Manhattans track sounds great too! Whenever I've put a mix together for my mixcloud, I always tried to put a spotlight on stuff I love but dont get to play or hear out often so if you want to hear some of them message me and I'll send you it. I'm a firm believer of A.T.B being by far the best format... It just makes sense in my eyes, done right can be complimentary to the selections and generally gives room to allow everything to breathe. Great cheap one I was buzzing to have heard out and was surprised cause of its price and availability was at the last Swinton, Fireman Phil played Roosevelt Grier - C'mon Cupid sort of middle of the set. Anyway here are a small grip of tunes I really adore that are probably overlooked cos they're just cheap. A budget Okeh oldie which has a really fun back up vocal and a nice bounce to it that sounds amazing over a big sound system and some genuinely interesting drum patterns which I think some dancers interpret well and has an addictive quality to it. Another is one of them Stax adjacent sounds which I think is massively undervalued and not heard enough. One I've been playing in sets for a bit and actually bought my friend a copy because it's so cheap and needs more plays. Bangin uptempo R&B which has all the facets of a couple of mainstay Northern in-demanders, I love this and can imagine it going down well with the right crowd. Criminally priced moody 70s stepper, I always say Leon sounds like he has the spirit of Gil of coming through him, I also remember seeing a video of a semi recent event on Facebook but can't remember where and it was getting a lot of praise, amazing track anyway... I play this pretty regularly and rate it highly but you have to make sure you get the demo copy and not the issue. I could do this all day haha.

Thanks Mike, sorry didn’t realise that but will bare it in mind for future if I’m quoting anything from an outside source!

I do get what you’re saying but they were literally down promenade less than a half a mile away from each other, organised by the same people and started out with Alldayers to begin with at the Winter Gardens. Regardless of the end of the pier its two venues which ran in tandem that are always mentioned in the same breath so I don’t think it’s a major reach to umbrella them as the majority of the tunes I originally mentioned are all recognised as ‘Cleethorpes sounds’ Below I’ve included a snippet of the write up & another poster from the first allniter in February from Soulstrutter website. ‘The all-nighters were the brainchild of Mary Chapman who ran the Lincolnshire Soul Club and went under the banner The Talk Of The North. She had run a few all-dayers at the Winter Gardens prior to the all-nighter which ran fortnightly and then later weekly. To cater for the popularity of the event she later ran a parallel nighter at the Winter Gardens in tandem and punters would move between both venues. They ran for just over a year before they were stopped by the council 'allegedly' over safety issues of The Pier. but more than likely due to the usual story i.e. drugs. The first all-nighter passed by almost unnoticed by Blues & Soul magazine which was largely at the behest of Chapman who didn't want the same publicity that was raging in the media over Wigan Casino in 1975 and preferred to keep Cleethorpes low profile. The media didn't get that this was an 'underground' scene that didn't want mass media exposure or attention.’’ Here is the TOTN 1st anniversary niter poster from Feb 21st in 1976. So from what it sounds like is between February 75 and the early months of 76 it looks like Lincolnshire Soul Club must have upped the niters from fortnitely to weekly for them to have it on the anniversary poster & potentially why some people have stated it was the leading niter during that timeframe which is interesting but I personally don’t think that detracts from the sounds that would have been played, most likely at both of the venues. Additionally, a guy named Graham commented on the page with an interesting addition in June last year surrounding the closure of the Pier niters… ‘I was there for every single one of the all-nighters, plus all of Mary's other events. Why you may ask? I designed and built the sound system which was used for them all and being based in Peterborough, I also delivered it and set it up at each event. It's good to see so many people remember those nights and I hope that continues. You mention the loss of the pier as a venue - I was involved in the discussions with the council and they actually wanted to sell the pier because they had been losing money running it. Yes, we were raided by the local police - claiming there was a bomb scare to evacuate everyone while they searched the building. NOTHING WAS FOUND, but the drug stories continued in the local press. No-one apart from Mary knew anything about my background as a musician and sound engineer and I kept quiet about it at the time, but I have continued playing in bands right up to the present day. Keep that faith! Graham’ Anyway, it would be cool to get some of the DJs who did both venues thoughts on sounds from both of the venues to see how the policy might have differed between the two during the dayers, niters and between the different time frames… Will be coming up to 50th anniversary of the first Pier Allniter soon enough and I highly doubt it will receive the national press what Wigan has had in the past 2 weeks or so 😂

That’s correct to be fair, Cleethorpes is a town and not a single venue and to be honest my initial input intentionally left out the where and when’s due to the fact of the matter is I wasn’t born & my reply gravitated around the sounds associated with the place which is a bit more fragmented and unfortunately not as straight forward as others at the time. However, aside from the Lincolnshire Soul Club events there were other allniters in the town that ran in the 70s into the 80s and even afterwards albeit not as regular as other clubs of the day that were run under different promotions like After Dark Promotion which also held events in Bradford & Nottingham, East Coast Connection who also ran allniters as well as Soul Time. Tbf, I never actually stated that it ran weekly but below I’ve included a poster from the first Talk of the North 1st anniversary ‘soul weekend’ among others where it also states ‘every week’ on the right hand side but I couldn’t tell you for certain but there are some clues of when these events ran within the wording in the varying posters I’ve uploaded here from different years. Below are a couple of the all niter posters from Soul Time from when Richard Searling played the Winter Gardens & here is a recording when Richard played the Pier between 1975-78. I was just grouping them in together for sake of convenience as a case for the overall Cleethorpes sound since the Winter Gardens initially ran side by side the Pier niters. *above is an East Coast Connection All dayer poster from 30th January 1977 and below is an After Dark one from the 80s. If you really wanted to split hairs we should also make note that Mike Walker attempted to put niters on at this same time to detract from success of the Pier Allniters which failed 4 times before they were jacked in which I’m afraid I again, do not have the dates of, hopefully someone can remember and share their knowledge. On a separate note, I’ve been compiling everything I can find online from flyers, photos of the people who went, badges & patches. If anyone has any ephemera from Cleethorpes niters or dayers I’d love to see it!