Dean

5 pence worth: I like playlists. There are so many nights that it helps to have a flavour to discern. I'm interested in this scene of ours, I'm interested in what people are playing. There are people out there I respect who I haven't met because of their playlists. . . . . . . . . . . . .and if some of us make a claim to play "underplayed" it's useful to know who, what, where. I'm guilty in the past of posting "demo" on my playlist. I'm undecided. I appreciate it can look a bit elitist and egotistical, I stopped because I didn't want to appear as such. But, I love my records and am proud of them. The scene I know and have taken so much pleasure from has been built on rarity - over the years we've all listened to some poorer quality soul records in the name of rarity, and ignored other brilliant records that are common. I think I like to know what label / issue a record is played on. I've huge respect for those many people with quality boxes who play them out, little respect (at best) for those not playing originals. There's always the question of same title different sounds different labels - a whole new thread here, my starter is Grover Mitchell - Take Your Time and Love Me, Josie and Decca - very different takes. When it comes to records it just matters, if you don't get it we just disagree.

I've only ever put two wants up on here, one came through and resulted in a great record for me, one didn't get any response. On both occasions I put the want and what I was prepared to pay. As it's me that wanted the record I thought it only fair to state that. If I'm selling I put a price I expect to sell for, may not always get it right as records we but and sell don't have intrinsic value, only what another (or two in bidding) is prepared to pay.

Promise not to put it on ebay Rob. I am liking this. Would be great to have somewhere for people over the next few years to have a place to say I was there when . . . . . . . . . It's like planning the future of the next retro scene I'll go and lay down now.

Rob / Karen - This is blooooooody cheeky I know, BUT - I'm thinking membership may prove to be an important aspect for small scale (which I like) that could be over subscribed. Can I bags an early membership number , preferably well in front of Garry Churm - just to annoy him . Good luck with it, sounds like an obvious go-er. Dean (member No8??)

Just sorting through a box: Selling: Bobby Diamond - Stop / Usually You, Columbia radio staion copy, authentic ZSP stamp. Both labels Ex+, both disc sides VG++ (usual few very minor light scuff marks, conservative grade). Overplayed in the day now hardly ever gets a play. Classic wigan oldie. £60 Teddy Randazzo - You Don't Need A Heart / As Long As I Live, dcp issue. Both labels VG+, some sticker mark at top on Need a Heart side (see pic), other side label solid but has some minor water stain. Both disc sides VG++, plays very strong. £55 Marian Love - Right To Cry / No Advice, Capitol promo. Both labels VG+/VG++, light pen mark on Right to Cry (see pic), both disc sides VG++. £15 Motown SOUL label pack (all duplicates from label collection). S35110F JR Walker - Dancin' Like They Do On Soul Train (promo) Ex; S35078 Gladys Knight - Tracks of My Tears Ex with bb hole; S35042 Gladys Knight - The End Of Our Road Ex with bb hole; S35083 Gladys Knight - I Don't Want To Do No Wrong Ex with bb hole; S35079 The Originals - God Bless Whoever Sent You Ex with bb hole; S 35077 Jimmy Ruffin - Maria VG++ with bb hole; S35070 JR walker - Gptta Hold Onto This Feeling Ex. 7 SOUL label Records £15. Accept paypal (no additional charge), cheque / PO / Cash, payment within 7 days please. Add £1 first class UK postage, £2 recorded UK. £3 Europe, £4 world.

I'll send you a cheque for £12.20 for True Tones. PM if acceptable. Dean

Hi Rob, I like the small venue notion, would make it feel special to be there. If I'm honest I think some NS acts can be dissapointing from a music perspective (only some, not all). I do like attending some live acts for the chance to show some appreciation for years of my enjoyment to records the artists may not have been rewarded for. Needs to be managed well in my opinion, I really don't get on well with extended soul medleys that can show the artists weaknesses rather than previous greatness. Just my opinion. This sounds like the return of an underground scene - bring it on, about time. BTW, as a bloke of varied musical tastes, appreciating many strands, attending festivals every year for the past ?? years, still attending current bands (not missed NME new bands tour in years), CHUCK JACKSON at the old Sherwood rooms in Nottingham (Can't remember the year Rob but would think you were there, long time ago) remains the single best performance I've ever been lucky enough to hear and see. £50 would be cheap to be near that man in a small room

be far too strong to say I hated any, but at a time of thumping "northern" I was quite neutral about large slabs of popular Motown sounds. I love Diana Ross these days, having got over my rare snobbery . . . . . . .

Nobody interested in our little underplayed fire-side ponderings. Did I mention that Levine and Roberts were there? (Levine is Kev's tortoise - he has to bring it inside for the winter, and Roberts is Steve's canary from the Pit days )

Just sharing this from a drunken sense of comradeship. Every now and again SteveL, KevH and myself get together in my front room to play a few to each other over a couple of bottles. Blowing a gale outside, proper coal fire, and these on the deck: Jean Elias - How Long Can I Go On Fooling Myself, Backbeat Carol Kay - This time you're Wrong, Wright Sound Joe Simon - Long Hot Summer, SS7 Ithacas - If You Want My Love, Fee Bee Carl Burnett - Jerk Baby Jerk, Carmax Ideals - I Got Lucky, St Lawrence Fury's What is Soul/ I lost My Babay, Mak4 The Mob - Unbelievable, Twinight Benny Latimore - It Was So Nice While It Lasted, Dade Grover Mithcell - Take Your Time and Love Me, Decca (very different to the Josie take, a whole thread here in itself!) Keep it to 10 for risk of boring you . . . . . . . . . . . . .The point is, there were several tracks one of us didn't know. I didn't know the Joe Simon track!!! Some of them are very cheap, some not so, but amazed that there's still such "underplayed" quality. Will it ever dry up?

Is there any chance of a photo/scan Steve. I'm not sure if I've seen an orig green/white written demo, are they like the boots in design? Dean

Does anyone have an original issue to compare - no doubt this is genuine, just wondering if the issue is as sea green?

Apologies if pic isn't too clear. Anyhow, not a difinitive answer but may help others to comment to find one. JM's guide (do you think John ever minds us quoting this?) mentions a fake look a like boot that even has a drill hole, pale blue as opposed to the sea green original. Also states that the 'leggers got the matrix wrong by including a - . This one isn't sea green, though has no drill hole, but has scratched matix D 203 - B (Polly Wolly side has D - 203 - A). I'm thinking this is prob a look-a-like boot without the drill hole, please please feel free to correct me. Just out of interest the Echoes write up that I stuck to the sleeve (when I was much younger!) reads: "Originally covered up as Pat White's 'One More Once' this is brilliant Wigan '76 stomper. The maxim widely used when listening to a new song - 'If it grabs you in the first twenty seconds - grab it'. Works with this one.The unique thumping drum opening and off key brass compliments Larry's wailing tortuous voice, so reminiscent of a Teddy Vann Production a la 'Moonlight Music & You' and 'What Shall I do'. Watch out for the Blue Diamond Normal copies as against the green and white demo which is a pressing" Who knows? Dean

I'll post a pic of mine about 5 ish and check on the run-out markings if it helps. It's an intersting point to me as I'd picked it up in the record bar at Wigan, the following week it was listed as "One to watch" in Black Echoes. I cut out the article and stuck it to the record sleeve, proud that it said "watch out for the green an white copies which are boots". Only realised a couple of years ago it wasn't an orig.

At work so not got access to records or guides at the moment. But, from memory, I was disappointed to learn that my Larry Hale, which looked like the one Prophonics had pictured was a boot according to JM guide. I think it states that the orig is more blue/green and the pale blue is a look-a-like boot, verifyed by deadwax markings. I'll have a look later and check, I'd be happy to find mine isn't a boot but I think it is. The green and white print one is an obvious boot as I recall. Dean

Hi Stevie -previous thread may be of interest. Hope to see you soon, hope all's good with you mate. Sorry mate just tried it and think I've only copied the link for Look At Your Box rather than the thread I intended to. I just looked back it was 27 Oct if you want to check back - I was pondering on the thread if there had been any Goldspot demo's / boots or only GAR demo boots. /index.php?showtopic=85147 That might be it! I'm soooo good at this techno stuff

I do some work in schools around that area, (Henry Mellish, River Leen, Ellis Guilford), I'll keep an eye for the missing two in case they've been dropped / thrown. I know it's silly given all the ills in the world and all the real problems some people face on a day-by-day basis, but I can't help but feel sick to the stomach at the thought of those two records laying out there somewhere, getting damaged. Post or Pm if you find them (or any others are found to be missing, but obviously if I see any 7" I'll contact you). Best wishes, Dean.

A very skinny lad from Mansfield used to finish day shift at the pit some fridays, shower, eat and change, bus to Nottingham, Barton's bus direct to Peterbro. Some locals used to think I was wearing eye-liner (never that trendy) with the pit dust still in my eyes. God, it all seems such a long time ago. Pit's have gone, lad I sometimes travelled with hung himself about six months ago (twat should never have given up soul nights . . . . . . . . I do have a soft side). Wonderful piece Paul, send you a donation in th post. Dean

I don't think I've ever seen a Goldspot boot, but that doesn't say much. Do you recall it looking like the G101 issue? Manships guide (getting dated now 3rd Edition) only refers to GAR boot.

Kev Holmes just text me to alert me to the Kenny Smith unplayed Lord, What's happening to Your People on Pete S current sales on here. Tempted but spent up at the moment. That got me to thinking, there are GAR djs (and booted), GAR issues, and Goldspot (Lord What's Happened) G101. I don't ever recall seeing a Goldspot DJ/demo. Do they exist?

Should put this on ebay Malc, bet you'd get more than £40 with the slogan " Genuine casino record box, still contains some air from the record bar".

Five for your halloween party: 1) Cobblestone - Trick Me Treat Me (treat) 2) Big Boris - Devil's drive (treat) 3) Ted Cassidy - The Lurch (trick) 4) R. Dean Taylor - Ghost in My House (treat) 5) Spooky and Sue - I've Got the Need (trick) IMO of course

You'll be back, you can't keep quality down, even when short on punters you generated a good night. Hope to buy you a baycham soon. Dean

Shame on you Toad, you mean you didn't tell the charity shop that saves the lives of thousands of people that it was worth much more!! If it eases your conscience, I'll give you £30 for it, you can give £20 to Oxfam and you're 300% up on the deal - everyones a winner