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Hi,

I've been following this recently, MARK III - SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU / PEACEFUL, LONELY, FREE - STOP 1512 , and picked up a confused picture on it's current price and scarcity..

For information purposes it books at £750 in TB's guide and I've seen it listed for around £1000 before.

I've included 2 recent sales links which demonstrate my point on current prices.

Appreciate any info and opinion on this.

Regards, G.

Recent Dealer Auction

https://www.northerns...ail.asp?id=1359

Recent Ebay Sale

https://cgi.ebay.co.u...6QQcmdZViewItem

MARK III - SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU - STOP - MARK III - PEACEFUL, LONELY, FREE - STOP -

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Hi,

I've been following this recently, MARK III - SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU / PEACEFUL, LONELY, FREE - STOP 1512 , and picked up a confused picture on it's current price and scarcity..

For information purposes it books at £750 in TB's guide and I've seen it listed for around £1000 before.

I've included 2 recent sales links which demonstrate my point on current prices.

Appreciate any info and opinion on this.

Regards, G.

Recent Dealer Auction

https://www.northerns...ail.asp?id=1359

Recent Ebay Sale

https://cgi.ebay.co.u...6QQcmdZViewItem

MARK III - SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU - STOP - MARK III - PEACEFUL, LONELY, FREE - STOP -

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to further confuse your picture, the canadian issue (on quality??? someone correct me if I'm wrong) has a different flipside

to further confuse your picture, the canadian issue (on quality??? someone correct me if I'm wrong) has a different flipside

it does have a different b side cant remember it now but i sold my copy through manship last year so if you can trawl through the sold auction items you may find it.

mark

MARK

THE QUESTION IS AND i ASKED THIS A FEW WEEKS BACK ON pat bradys prices...

SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU ???

VERY APT title

HE seems to have THE SAME RECORDS GOING ROUND IN CIRCLES ON HIS SITE every few weeks

THAT OVBVIOUSLY DONT SELL

UNLESS HE HAS LOADS OF COPIES,, BRILLIANT CORNERS, sam fletcher, ascots but to name a few

gasher

MARK

THE QUESTION IS AND i ASKED THIS A FEW WEEKS BACK ON pat bradys prices...

SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU ???

VERY APT title

HE seems to have THE SAME RECORDS GOING ROUND IN CIRCLES ON HIS SITE every few weeks

THAT OVBVIOUSLY DONT SELL

UNLESS HE HAS LOADS OF COPIES,, BRILLIANT CORNERS, sam fletcher, ascots but to name a few

gasher

Hi Gasher

dont know if he has loads of copies but Mark III is not that well known or popular so maybe he has a high reserve on it :yes:

it is not that great a record and i was lucky enough to get mine for about $70.00 and sold it on did not make a great price but i made a good profit on it.

mark

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Hi Gasher

dont know if he has loads of copies but Mark III is not that well known or popular so maybe he has a high reserve on it :yes:

it is not that great a record and i was lucky enough to get mine for about $70.00 and sold it on did not make a great price but i made a good profit on it.

mark

The flip is a real quality tune and the 'a' side is not a bad crossover sound. We all have differing opinions but to say that "it is not that great a record.." is interesting..

I don't believe it is widely known and I doubt PB has 'loads of copies' as it sold for £1500 on the 08.12.2009 - unless you believe PB massages his results it's a genuine sale, hence the question I raised as the theme of the thread..

Although this other banter is interesting to a point, I'd like to return to the question posed please. So, if anybody has any info - see first post - then it would be appreciated.

BTW For the scinics, it's a record I'm after and not looking to sell! :no:

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Regards,

G.

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The flip is a real quality tune and the 'a' side is not a bad crossover sound. We all have differing opinions but to say that "it is not that great a record.." is interesting..

I don't believe it is widely known and I doubt PB has 'loads of copies' as it sold for £1500 on the 08.12.2009 - unless you believe PB massages his results it's a genuine sale, hence the question I raised as the theme of the thread..

Although this other banter is interesting to a point, I'd like to return to the question posed please. So, if anybody has any info - see first post - then it would be appreciated.

BTW For the scinics, it's a record I'm after and not looking to sell! :yes:

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Regards,

G.

i would not have sold it if it had been a greta record, the other side of the Quality issue is called Anyway you want to (if my memory is ok) the peacefull side on Stop is not bad, but i still stand by it not being a great record i got it after Soul sam reveiwed it in Manifesto a few years ago, and when i got it i played it out a couple of times to not much reaction it is just a bit too Moddish for my taste, think the peacefull side is better than all the other sides.

mark

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I know My mate Paul traded his Stop copy for £1000.00 tune but my copy on Quality only raised £340.00 i would say in rarity terms the £750.00 to £1000.00 on Stop.

mark

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i got it after Soul sam reveiwed it in Manifesto a few years ago, and when i got it i played it out a couple of times to not much reaction it is just a bit too Moddish for my taste, think the peacefull side is better than all the other sides.

mark

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the info. Like I said we all have differing tastes :rolleyes:

I don't think it's ('Should I Believe You') a dancefloor tune either, the rhythm is all over the place - mainly due to the funk style syncopated drumming - very difficult to dance to in any typical 'northern style. Not surprised you didn't get much reaction, probably just a few confused faces!

But it's that syncpated rhythm, the horns, bongos and chaotic vocal that turn me on to it! It's more a record room tune for me. The other side - 'Painful' - is as you say the quality side.

BTW I'd be interested in reading Sam's review if it's available anywhere..

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Regards,

G.

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Hi Mark,

Thanks for the info. Like I said we all have differing tastes :rolleyes:

I don't think it's ('Should I Believe You') a dancefloor tune either, the rhythm is all over the place - mainly due to the funk style syncopated drumming - very difficult to dance to in any typical 'northern style. Not surprised you didn't get much reaction, probably just a few confused faces!

But it's that syncpated rhythm, the horns, bongos and chaotic vocal that turn me on to it! It's more a record room tune for me. The other side - 'Painful' - is as you say the quality side.

BTW I'd be interested in reading Sam's review if it's available anywhere..

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Regards,

G.

hi cant remeber when it was but if you have old copies of manifesto (i think it was that or togetherness magazine) you can search for it i got rid of all mine when i moved so cant post it up.

Mark

The flip is a real quality tune and the 'a' side is not a bad crossover sound. We all have differing opinions but to say that "it is not that great a record.." is interesting..

I don't believe it is widely known and I doubt PB has 'loads of copies' as it sold for £1500 on the 08.12.2009 - unless you believe PB massages his results it's a genuine sale, hence the question I raised as the theme of the thread..

Although this other banter is interesting to a point, I'd like to return to the question posed please. So, if anybody has any info - see first post - then it would be appreciated.

BTW For the scinics, it's a record I'm after and not looking to sell! :thumbup:

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Regards,

G.

i think the existence of another press with another flip is relevant to your question as it affects the rarity and value of the other press, also depending on how the flip of the quality press sounds.

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i think the existence of another press with another flip is relevant to your question as it affects the rarity and value of the other press, also depending on how the flip of the quality press sounds.

Wasn't refering to the info on another press Boba, that's all good info and much appreciated, just wanted to focus on that type of info i.e. oubjective rather than any subjective stuff.

Apologies if you read it any other way.

ATB

Greg. :thumbup:

I won your copy Mark, was very pleased with the price - glad you did well on it too - even got a few "well done" emails after the auction telling me what a steal had got it for so nice we're both happy, the Quality issue is just as hard as the Stop, eg Martin Koppel has been in Canada for donkeys years and had never even heard of it, personally into both sides, can't argue bit moddish, that's no bad thing for me, it's quality on Quality!

I won your copy Mark, was very pleased with the price - glad you did well on it too - even got a few "well done" emails after the auction telling me what a steal had got it for so nice we're both happy, the Quality issue is just as hard as the Stop, eg Martin Koppel has been in Canada for donkeys years and had never even heard of it, personally into both sides, can't argue bit moddish, that's no bad thing for me, it's quality on Quality!

glad you like it was hoping for more but you cant be too greedy can you, it is probably rarer on canadian quality than US stop. have seen more of the stop ones.

Mark

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I won your copy Mark, was very pleased with the price - glad you did well on it too - even got a few "well done" emails after the auction telling me what a steal had got it for so nice we're both happy, the Quality issue is just as hard as the Stop, eg Martin Koppel has been in Canada for donkeys years and had never even heard of it, personally into both sides, can't argue bit moddish, that's no bad thing for me, it's quality on Quality!

Quality indeed and a steal indeed.. Class 45 !thumbup.gif

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Quality indeed and a steal indeed.. Class 45 !thumbup.gif

I sold a VG+ copy on Stop on this forum about two months ago for £350 UKP if thats any help ? Would say a minter would be £6-£700 range

Andy

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