hmmm

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1

looks right but then the boot of this is very good

is it surprising that one turns up in philly in close to mint condition after all these years? i mean hicksville, arizona maybe (or maybe not, i dunno) but philadelphia?? which has been visited a few times.

i messaged the seller three days ago with questions but have had no response

is the seller known? it's not val shively is it? can't remember his ebay id?

what is the consensus??

by the way, if it's real please forget you ever saw this thread and...look into my eyes, not around the eyes, into the eyes...YOU DON'T KNOW THERE'S A PROPER MAGNETICS ON EBAY

hmmm

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1

looks right but then the boot of this is very good

is it surprising that one turns up in philly in close to mint condition after all these years? i mean hicksville, arizona maybe (or maybe not, i dunno) but philadelphia?? which has been visited a few times.

i messaged the seller three days ago with questions but have had no response

is the seller known? it's not val shively is it? can't remember his ebay id?

what is the consensus??

by the way, if it's real please forget you ever saw this thread and...look into my eyes, not around the eyes, into the eyes...YOU DON'T KNOW THERE'S A PROPER MAGNETICS ON EBAY

According to Manship's guide this looks like an original Dan

Lenny

According to Manship's guide this looks like an original Dan

Lenny

thanks lenny

just suspicious because 1) would have thought philadelphia had been fully magnetics-d-out by now and 2) also this dude hasn't returned my email thingy from ebay

if he's telling the truth re the bell sound stamp we're halfway there but isn't there something else on a proper one too? also the boots of this are virtually identical lookalikeys aren't they?

yours

confused of warwickshire

(not that i'll be bidding anyway you understand )

Edited September 19, 200519 yr by Dan

hmmm

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1

looks right but then the boot of this is very good

is it surprising that one turns up in philly in close to mint condition after all these years? i mean hicksville, arizona maybe (or maybe not, i dunno) but philadelphia?? which has been visited a few times.

i messaged the seller three days ago with questions but have had no response

is the seller known? it's not val shively is it? can't remember his ebay id?

what is the consensus??

by the way, if it's real please forget you ever saw this thread and...look into my eyes, not around the eyes, into the eyes...YOU DON'T KNOW THERE'S A PROPER MAGNETICS ON EBAY

Looking at the current leading bidders purchase history, he may think that he's bidding on a fur coat, the word 'Sable' causing the confusion

Now what were we talking about

thanks lenny

just suspicious because 1) would have thought philadelphia had been fully magnetics-d-out by now and 2) also this dude hasn't returned my email thingy from ebay

if he's telling the truth re the bell sound stamp we're halfway there but isn't there something else on a proper one too? also the boots of this are virtually identical lookalikeys aren't they?

yours

confused of warwickshire

(not that i'll be bidding anyway you understand )

The original has a heavy moulded over label and the boot has a bevelled edge, the matrix number on the run out should be 101tm-1931, I copied the picture in my file then zoomed in, looks ok but can't see matrix number , still better to be sure

Lenny

seen both boot and orig and i think only way to tell is by the blindingly shiny 'new' vinyl and bevelled edge of the boot. best to buy a demo to be on the safe side

hmmm

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1

looks right but then the boot of this is very good

is it surprising that one turns up in philly in close to mint condition after all these years? i mean hicksville, arizona maybe (or maybe not, i dunno) but philadelphia?? which has been visited a few times.

i messaged the seller three days ago with questions but have had no response

is the seller known? it's not val shively is it? can't remember his ebay id?

what is the consensus??

by the way, if it's real please forget you ever saw this thread and...look into my eyes, not around the eyes, into the eyes...YOU DON'T KNOW THERE'S A PROPER MAGNETICS ON EBAY

Lots have places have been visited a few times but rarities still turn up later. I was in New york Feb and in a shop reccommended to me. His 45 racks were empty saying he just got rid of 8000 records. He had another room full but would not let me in even when flashing $600 at him- He said he hadnt decided what to do with them yet!

2 months later a guy from france walks into the same shop and gets a silouhettes-not me baby for $1

So it doesnt surprise me if its Philadelphia

Lots have places have been visited a few times but rarities still turn up later. I was in New york Feb and in a shop reccommended to me. His 45 racks were empty saying he just got rid of 8000 records. He had another room full but would not let me in even when flashing $600 at him- He said he hadnt decided what to do with them yet!

2 months later a guy from france walks into the same shop and gets a silouhettes-not me baby for $1

So it doesnt surprise me if its Philadelphia

ouch ya bastard

that would piss me off

you're right i know, things do turn up, but...i dunno

sure it's proper, don't want to defame the seller he just hasn't come back to me when i asked about matrixes, vinyl etc

seen both boot and orig and i think only way to tell is by the blindingly shiny 'new' vinyl and bevelled edge of the boot. best to buy a demo to be on the safe side

Are you still selling me the Empires ?

seen both boot and orig and i think only way to tell is by the blindingly shiny 'new' vinyl and bevelled edge of the boot. best to buy a demo to be on the safe side

the one on eBay does look v shiny

hmmm

Looking at the current leading bidders purchase history, he may think that he's bidding on a fur coat, the word 'Sable' causing the confusion

Now what were we talking about

he seems to buy mainly six 6 strappy white sandals (original manolo blahnik only of course)

The one on Ebay strikes me as a definite original for two reasons:

1. There isn't a noticeable bevelled edge.

2. Most importantly, on the bootleg, the typeface for the title "When I'm With My Baby" is different to the one for "Count The Days". It is a more bolder, modern typeface. Looking at the pics on Ebay here, the typefaces for both titles appear to be the same; nothing like the boot.

Hope this helps.

Gene

Just think about it- Most people know that most of the magnetis records are worth alot of cash. So much so that they spend $200 getting a boxful pressed up and even get a bell sound stamp put in in the process because we have the technology today to do so. ! The only way to know if its gen or not is to test the age of the plastic!

It is severely worrying and if you read one of my previous comments on Frederick hymes you really have to wonder if it is worth spending anything over $100.00 for a record

he seems to buy mainly six 6 strappy white sandals (original manolo blahnik only of course)

Have you seen the black boned corset ?

Just think about it- Most people know that most of the magnetis records are worth alot of cash. So much so that they spend $200 getting a boxful pressed up and even get a bell sound stamp put in in the process because we have the technology today to do so. ! The only way to know if its gen or not is to test the age of the plastic!

It is severely worrying and if you read one of my previous comments on Frederick hymes you really have to wonder if it is worth spending anything over $100.00 for a record

or you could be putting people off bidding by sowing seeds of doubt.....

Have you seen the black boned corset ?

just got a very sickening mental image thanks.

or you could be putting people off bidding by sowing seeds of doubt.....

Thats not like you Mr D

Sowing seeds of doubt! We need abit more doubting what comes from our American friends these days!

If you can tell whether something was written on paper yesterday or 30 years ago then the same can be done for vinyl.

I should invent a quick test laser and make myself millions!

Or send it to your mate who has a vinyl testing laboritory and certificate to guarantee

your purchase is at least 30 year old vinyl on a 25 year old release.

"I SMELL SHITE"

haha

you fucking twanger

Eccelscake ..you,ll be the death of me

I,ll die laughing

love you to bits..

the gasher

at least

Edited September 19, 200519 yr by The Gasher

Sowing seeds of doubt! We need abit more doubting what comes from our American friends these days!

If you can tell whether something was written on paper yesterday or 30 years ago then the same can be done for vinyl.

I should invent a quick test laser and make myself millions!

i firmly believe that modern technology + modern prices + easy spread of information = means, motive and opportunity

i said this on soultalk a year or two ago and was denounced as a dangerous lunatic

but if soussain could do it successfully in the 70s why couldn't it be done now, and better too

take the oxford nights - no distinguishing characteristics really, piss-easy label to boot...if those crazy brits will throw $1000 a piece at you why not knock a few out

amazing to me that proper organised crime isn't looking at it, though i concede the volumes involved probably aren't great enough

but as part of a generalised bootlegging operation, involving rare beatles, punk, doo wop and god knows what else, why not?

anyway, that should have successfully put you lot off bidding so i'm off to get meself a magnetics for $300

Have you seen the black boned corset ?

no quick, where, i need one for my missus

Or send it to your mate who has a vinyl testing certificate to guarantee

your purchase is at least 30 year old vinyl on a 25 year old release.

"I SMELL SHITE"

haha

you fucking twanger

Eccelscake ..you,ll be the death of me

I,ll die laughing

love you to bits..

the gasher

at least

I wondered how long it would take you to get on the bandwagon- Is your name Johnny Johnson?

Im "breaking down the walls of heartache"

as I laugh profusely at your blatant bull excrement.

check me..I cant smile wide enough

this was the smile I pulled when you told me that story of frivilous drivel.

its stuck for good now

next you,ll tell me you also had it DNA tested as there was a jizzy wank

stain on the label and the guy said the spunk was defo from the 60,s..

as it was found to have traces of acid and a hair folicle from Freddy Hymes III ,s

scrotum.SO IT MUST BE REAL...hahahahahahahaha

XXXXXXXX

the gasher

Edited September 19, 200519 yr by The Gasher

plot thickens.

in september, items he was selling bore the following line, with a nice and vaguely amusing typographical error:

Soul 45 - Pendulum Swingers - Never Should Have Loved You Baby / Never Happened Before - Pendulum Records - Conditon: A side is close to VG+, b-side is VG with a few scuffs that don't effect play. Check out web-shite for similar items:www.funkadelphiarecords.com. Ask for updated email list of set-sale 45's.

if you go to that site it's full of recent reissues:

https://www.funkadelphiarecords.com/45s.html

just so not being unfair to this guy, does anyone know who he is?

someone must have bought off him??

I`ve also mailed him 3 times with no reply ,

here`s a scan of an Orig that sold on Ebay last year or so,

the writing on the Orig is a lot crisper than the boot,but i must say

this for this one the shield looks in the same place as the Orig,the boots

i`ve seen have all the shield showing with none missing,but hey don`t take my word for it,

what do i know

Dave f..............

the guy selling the sable 45 is 100% i've been dealing with him for years ,he has one of if not the best collections of philly 45's in the world and has brought us countless unissued philly gems over the years .he had records like this when i was still at infant school !!!

the guy selling the sable 45 is 100% i've been dealing with him for years ,he has one of if not the best collections of philly 45's in the world and has brought us countless unissued philly gems over the years .he had records like this when i was still at infant school !!!

agreed, a1 seller

the type face is def slight difference side by side, slight line smudge (consistant though) on all outside lines.

quoting someone above re bell sound stamps: who can do perfect replica's using todays technology????

do any real close copies exist

if so what on??????

surely today's pressing techniques cant recreate these stamps because of the very nature of todays technology rendering the way they stand on the finished vinyl, the s has a heavy curl to the top, u and d all have slighty heavier curls to the bottom

also the attemps at recreation are very, very different, the ones ive seen anyway

not as bad as mel brits ztsc but to the even slightly informed chaulk and cheese

im not bidding, but depending on outcomes there might be another advertised sooner than you might think!

anyone out there got bunny foote watson donkey and the goat pt 1 & 2 on big hawk 18101, get in touch if yes, info needed, thanks

BAN THE SABLE TRADE