seen a uk demo for sale today ,not everyones fave label

ive got a destiny ISSUE ,,not seen too many around

whats the value do u reckon?

Same as the demo Mark. I've had them with demo labels stuck over the issues as well.

MY ONE AND ONLY VISIT TO ROBS RECORDS,

I WAS GOING TO BUY THE DESTINY ISSUES AHD HE LET ME HAVE ALL WHITE DEMOS

WAS NOT THE DELITES WITHDRAWN CONFLICTING WITH THE GEAPEVINE RELEASE

KEV

MY ONE AND ONLY VISIT TO ROBS RECORDS,

I WAS GOING TO BUY THE DESTINY ISSUES AHD HE LET ME HAVE ALL WHITE DEMOS

WAS NOT THE DELITES WITHDRAWN CONFLICTING WITH THE GEAPEVINE RELEASE

KEV

It was..

seen a uk demo for sale today ,not everyones fave label

So can this be considered the 1st UK press original? So is it okay to play this out then?

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seen a uk demo for sale today ,not everyones fave label

ive got a destiny ISSUE ,,not seen too many around

whats the value do u reckon?

There was an article in Northern Noise I think on Destiny Records. If i remember right,There was a listing of how many demos were pressed up,Anyone remember the article?

There was an article in Northern Noise I think on Destiny Records. If i remember right,There was a listing of how many demos were pressed up,Anyone remember the article?

Kev Roberts would know!

Kev Roberts would know!

Yes he should do Pete the article/interview was with him.

Global record sales, licensed the record, to Kev Roberts, via the connection cuppy had with swan.

Didn't Richard Searling work for them (Global Records) in his early days?

Didn't he also have a connection with Grapevine via RCA?

Is there any connection?

Yes he did, the story as I remember, was grapevine licencsed, the record via Bill Haley's wife, cuppy, who the label was named after, hence the confliction over its UK release.

Is this a case of copyright then?

Who had the copyright?

Is this similar to (but perhaps not in the same league as) Darrell Banks and the London/Stateside release?

Will it be a future case that the two (almost) simultaneous releases of Lover will make the record hound discuss this very subject again and again?

TOTP

Many many years ago, I was on a trip to Hurts Yard with Kev Draper, where we found a copy of the Delites Destiny issue. Kev Roberts, thought they had discarded all the issues. Heres the story he (Kev Roberts) told Kev Draper and I.

We had the rights to to The New Wanderers "This Man in Love", but Grapevine released it before we had chance, so in retaliation we decided to press The Delites "Lover" as demo only.

When questioned about a "stray' Destiny Blue issue, we found buried in the shelves upstairs, Kev Roberts said, in a shocked voice, oh.. I thought we had discarded the all of the blue issue stock, we certainly have never released it for sale!! (might explain Pete Smiths explanation of Demo labels stuck over blue issues?) Kev Draper and I looked everywhere for more blue issues, but couldn't find not one other single copy.

We then asked if Destiny were going to issue the New Wanderers, he smiled and said, no I doubt it.

Since then, I've always wondered if out there somewhere is a New Wanderers on Destiny???

I'm pretty sure the the Delites Destiny Issue is a very scarce item, interestingly it was released with the flip side of a totally different Cuppy release by the Zombies.

Weird!!!! Strange world of Northern Soul!!

this link may help

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/search/Label/destiny/all/1

Our sales data suggests the stock copy is rarer by a ratio of 4 to 1

Bob on John, can always rely on you for a result.

Personally never liked the label but the demo looks better than the issue to me (colour co-ordination).

I was alway's quite fond of destiny blues they were well made and dependable and certainly were afordable to the like's of me in the early day's of collecting northern soul records . did see the blue delight's twice Dereks records in Coalville market and that coloured guy (charlie ?) who was from somewhere like Shefield or Barnsly who used to arrive at gig's with loads of plastic box's and alike full of cheapies , boot's and reissue type records and some young lads helping him does anyone remember him ? he alway's seemed a bit bad tempered he had a blue Delight's regards Simon.

I was alway's quite fond of destiny blues they were well made and dependable and certainly were afordable to the like's of me in the early day's of collecting northern soul records . did see the blue delight's twice Dereks records in Coalville market and that coloured guy (charlie ?) who was from somewhere like Shefield or Barnsly who used to arrive at gig's with loads of plastic box's and alike full of cheapies , boot's and reissue type records and some young lads helping him does anyone remember him ? he alway's seemed a bit bad tempered he had a blue Delight's regards Simon.

Wasn't there a local soul mafia persona that had claim to fame having all of the music from Wigan, i:e a full set of Density, Oh Destiny Records (got it right the first time). Oh such is youth??????

Regards Bob

Bob do you remember mick King from Coalville he was the hell's angel that used to ride with the Leiceter Ratai H.A chapter He had a full set of blue Destiny's and some fantastic originals.***********Have to explain to confused readers **************** Mick King was a real Hell's Angel but in the sixties he was a mod he had one of the most amazing record collections of all time and most of his originals were bought as new releases everthing from soul.r-n-b , pscychadelic and under ground rock.I went to his house once and amongst his record collection were his angel colours and chromed stormtrooper helmet with scrap books full of concert tickets and posters amazing stuff motown revue , Jimmy Hendrex exsperiance all the r-n-b artists T-rex , sex pistols , commadores ect ect regards Simon.

Tell me about him, his dad(uncle) was landlord of the Engine in the 60's. a local [a town pub like any other] People travelled from Soul on Trent to see the acts at C(S)oalville. Mick King (He's still alive) used to have great nights down our way, he could (and still can) tell you stories. One of my BROS best mates GOD LOVE HIM

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Tell me about him, his dad(uncle) was landlord of the Engine in the 60's. a local [a town pub like any other] People travelled from Soul on Trent to see the acts at C(S)oalville. Mick King (He's still alive) used to have great nights down our way, he could (and still can) tell you stories. One of my BROS best mates GOD LOVE HIM

I think it was his uncle that brought him up at the pub did Mick's wife die in the end ? I know she was bad with the drink and drug thing last thing I heared was her liver was trashed .I bet he regrets selling his records , we went to see the Damned at Nottingham one night and a load of pissed up forest fans had a go at us and mick beat about eight of them up at the same time never seen a man fight like it.He took his bullet belt off and wrapped it around his fist and started knocking 'em down like bileo see you soon Bob Simon.

Shall talk to you later LOL

who are you john s?