Hi everyone

 

Wondering if The Soul President - Get It Right / Got To Have It (Big Mack) - red label, black print - has ever been bootlegged or done on a legit re-issue please?

 

I know at least one Big Mack record (Manhattans) was done on  a repro.

 

Thanks for any info.

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Hi Richard

Yes it has ... looky likey

According to discogs, it was reissued by Soul Fire.

https://www.discogs.com/Soul-President-Get-It-Right-Got-To-Have-It/release/2174869

Thanks Dazz and Nick

 

This is a red Big Mack label with black print but just didn't look right.

 

It's got a load of Soul Fire blurb pressing details and names in the deadwax.

 

Must be the re-issue then. Was not sold as a re-issue though 

 

Anyone got any more information on either the Big Mack original or the Soul Fire re-issue please, including all the anorak matrix marks, label paper, font details etc? 

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Edited February 28, 201411 yr by Premium Stuff

Notes

This is the reissue from the Soul Fire label and sports a Soul Fire cat.no. SF-012 in the deadwax.

Images


try this Richard.

 

ricky.

Can't see that picture Ricky - is it just me?

 

Cheers

 

Richard

'Soul Fire Dist SF-012' etched in runout groove.

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  Title Label Cat# Country Year

 

Get It Right / Got To Have It "Ž
(7") Big Mack 24221 US 1968

 

Get It Right / Got To Have It "Ž
(7", RE) Soul Fire SF 012 US 2001

two songs by Soul President, a Bay Area act whose single "Got to Have It" b/w "Get It Right" was reissued by Big Mack in the Detroit area despite being a failure in its original domicile. Listening to the killer beat, psychedelic guitar, and enthusiastic vocals, it's hard to fault McCoy for taking the risk.

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THE SOUL PRESIDENT - GET IT RIGHT / GOT TO HAVE IT on BIG MACK CONDITION: EX (some marks that can't be heard and slight tear on label A side)  ORIGINAL COPY not the Soul Fire reissue. Killer raw funk by Rhon Silver AKA The Soul President. Hear it on an MP3 taken from the actual copy

ricky

I've heard serious collectors mention that the Soul President release on Big Mack was maybe a bootleg to begin with. Since it's a Detroit re-issue of Rhon Silva "Get It Right" on Uptight: https://www.discogs.com/Rhon-Silva-Get-It-Right-Got-To-Have-It/release/4673624

 

It's a bit strange that a Californian record would get a later release on a Detroit label under a different name? With McCoy taking a production credit, when it's not him on the Uptight label?

Thanks folks

 

I have been very reliably advised that all Big Mack copies are boots.

 

Does not make sense regarding the claim in a post above about an original and not being a Soul Fire original??? 

 

Mine is Soul Fire for sure - due to dead wax - obvious later looking label etc.

 

Does anyone have any definitive anorak info on a Big Mack original please? I'm guessing the answer is "no" but I'm open to new info 

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Edited March 4, 201411 yr by Premium Stuff

I have been very reliably advised that all Big Mack copies are boots.

 

I was implying that the "original" 60s Big Mack records maybe weren't entirely legitimate (or maybe they were?) since it's a "re-issue" of Rhon Silva on Uptight. What doesn't make sense in my post?

I was implying that the "original" 60s Big Mack records maybe weren't entirely legitimate (or maybe they were?) since it's a "re-issue" of Rhon Silva on Uptight. What doesn't make sense in my post?

 

It wasn't your post that I was picking up specifically on mate, but on the point in Ricky's post #7 which states "ORIGINAL COPY not the Soul Fire reissue. Killer raw funk by Rhon Silver AKA The Soul President. Hear it on an MP3 taken from the actual copy"

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Edited March 10, 201411 yr by Premium Stuff

 

It wasn't your post that I was picking up specifically on mate, but on the point in Ricky's post #7 which states "ORIGINAL COPY not the Soul Fire reissue. Killer raw funk by Rhon Silver AKA The Soul President. Hear it on an MP3 taken from the actual copy"

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

 

Scans on Popsike look very slightly different to the Soul Fire re-issue:

 

https://www.popsike.com/Soul-President-FUNK-45-Get-It-Right-Got-To-Have-It/170163350900.html

Thanks folks

 

I have been very reliably advised that all Big Mack copies are boots.

 

Does not make sense regarding the claim in a post above about an original and not being a Soul Fire original??? 

 

Mine is Soul Fire for sure - due to dead wax - obvious later looking label etc.

 

Does anyone have any definitive anorak info on a Big Mack original please? I'm guessing the answer is "no" but I'm open to new info 

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

I have a non-Soulfire Big Mack late 60s/early 70's pressing

 

the deadwax has Delta Symbol 74505 / Delta 74505 - X 

 

AND 24221-A / 24221 - B

 

the pressing plant logo looks like an ALCO pressing - but there's another logo that looks scribbled out & yet another logo that looks like a KW

 

seems Big Mack had the metal plates? pointing towards some sort of authorized release

I have a non-Soulfire Big Mack late 60s/early 70's pressing

 

the deadwax has Delta Symbol 74505 / Delta 74505 - X 

 

AND 24221-A / 24221 - B

 

the pressing plant logo looks like an ALCO pressing - but there's another logo that looks scribbled out & yet another logo that looks like a KW

 

seems Big Mack had the metal plates? pointing towards some sort of authorized release

 

Thanks very much for those details - very helpful 

 

Any chance of a label scan please?

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Edited March 11, 201411 yr by Premium Stuff