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I've just noticed that the normally reliable R&B Indies book has SMC records as out of Detroit co-owned by Leroy Kirkland and Clyde Wilson AKA Steve Mancha. I'm virtually certain this is wrong. Leroy was out of NYC and SMC was 69-71 when Steve was around Invictus. Also the other main artist on SMC is Bee Bee Butler who recorded for Barry also NYC. Still any verification would be handy. Ady

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  • SMC WAS a NY label.  B.B. Butler and most of the other names connected worked out of NY.  That Clyde Wilson was probably a different guy, working out of NY, as the SMC recording probably took place wh

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    Clyde Brown ?...thought we were discussing Clyde Wilson Mark...   Best Russ

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SMC was a New York label.  But that wouldn't prevent them from leasing a Detroit production, nor keep Steve Mancha from recording for a New York label, as did J..J.  Barnes (Perception).  

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I agree Rob, but I should have added that this Clyde Wilson was an occasional writing partner of Rose Marie McCoy in the early 60s and I think is likely to be an East Coast guy. I was hoping someone might know of other Clyde Wilson work on the East Coast as I can only account for the late and early 60s.

I agree Rob, but I should have added that this Clyde Wilson was an occasional writing partner of Rose Marie McCoy in the early 60s and I think is likely to be an East Coast guy. I was hoping someone might know of other Clyde Wilson work on the East Coast as I can only account for the late and early 60s.

 

Rose did spend time in Detroit at Golden World when she composed 'Spellbound' for Tamiko  Jones and so on

 

Is it worth giving her a call ?

 

andy

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Rose did spend time in Detroit at Golden World when she composed 'Spellbound' for Tamiko  Jones and so on

 

Is it worth giving her a call ?

 

andy

Yes please she may remember. i'll email you.

It's weird , I have a New York acetate of Billy Clark " Too bad too sad " / " You'll never make it alone " .On the flipside it is credited to Clyde Wilson , maybe this is the same guy ? As far as I know his name isn't credited on the Gama release of the above record , it's always bugged me .....

:hatsoff2: HI ALL... SMC a great label & rare to-boot, even the BEE B BUTLER 45s although cheap compared with most on the label are great soul records,

I always assumed SMC was a NEW YORK LABEL?? :huh: DAVE K

SMC WAS a NY label.  B.B. Butler and most of the other names connected worked out of NY.  That Clyde Wilson was probably a different guy, working out of NY, as the SMC recording probably took place when Steve Mancha was very active in Detroit.  

The NYC Clyde Brown is likely the one who recorded a handful of singles for Atlantic in the 70`s and was also a member of the Drifters.
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It's weird , I have a New York acetate of Billy Clark " Too bad too sad " / " You'll never make it alone " .On the flipside it is credited to Clyde Wilson , maybe this is the same guy ? As far as I know his name isn't credited on the Gama release of the above record , it's always bugged me .....

Could well be Eddie, I believe Gama is a Washington east coast label.

Oops !! Time to get myself a pair of specs mate !! lol

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