Can anyone please advise on the matrix/runout markings on Leon Haywood, baby reconsider, styrene blue/white issue. I know about the boot of the promo but nothing on the issue. Cannot find this anywhere on net, I have what looks and feels like a styrene copy, plays correct titles but cannot see any markings on 'goin back' side, any thoughts/ advice please.

Original issue came from Monarch with delta 64378 in styrene. There is a later "re-issue", I think it has instrumental on B side.tritriangle" 64378, "MRangle" 64378, "MR

Thanks , mine has delta 64378 and the MR in circle but also M-318 NOT directly opposite mid delta number, correct 'b' side but with no visible markings?.

My copy has the delta # , the MR and the M-318 also so I would think yours is a legit copy.

Thanks, phew, just wanting to know before advertising as an original. Just now deciding whether to sell.

Edited August 9, 20159 yr by Baldsoulie

Thanks , mine has delta 64378 and the MR in circle but also M-318 NOT directly opposite mid delta number, correct 'b' side but with no visible markings?.

It's an original, was recorded in LA with Monarch just around the corner. Here's some trivia, the recording session started at 11.00pm and finished at 03.00am, was being played on the radio stations and going down well, then in steps Berry Gordy who told Fat Fish to pull the record or face a law suit, Gordy said it was plagiarism, sounding like "Just a little misunderstanding". Having just won a case against Curtis Mayfield for "Can't satisfy" they couldn't risk the business and did pull the record. Thats' why issues are harder to find than demos. Not a lot of people know that  

 

It's an original, was recorded in LA with Monarch just around the corner. Here's some trivia, the recording session started at 11.00pm and finished at 03.00am, was being played on the radio stations and going down well, then in steps Berry Gordy who told Fat Fish to pull the record or face a law suit, Gordy said it was plagiarism, sounding like "Just a little misunderstanding". Having just won a case against Curtis Mayfield for "Can't satisfy" they couldn't risk the business and did pull the record. Thats' why issues are harder to find than demos. Not a lot of people know that  

 

That's an interesting piece of information Chris,  I have had a long standing disagreement with one Mr Holyman about it, he always says that the issue is rarer, whilst I maintain that a proper demo is rarer. Looking at sales on eBay I have noted that I have seen 7 issues sold but only 3 demos. Perhaps a straw poll of members might reveal the true position.

I've got a demo

 

That's an interesting piece of information Chris,  I have had a long standing disagreement with one Mr Holyman about it, he always says that the issue is rarer, whilst I maintain that a proper demo is rarer. Looking at sales on eBay I have noted that I have seen 7 issues sold but only 3 demos. Perhaps a straw poll of members might reveal the true position.

I've got a demo

 

Checked Popsick and saw 7 demos & 8 issues, way, way back it was all demos, you'll find that the issue generally goes for more money, usually a good Litmus test. That story BTW came from the arranger, the legendary Arthur Wright, who coincidentally later worked for the LA Motown office. 

What is  boot details one ive got has delta  64378  but doesn't say promo

First boot white label black writing on vinyl not styrene

 

First boot white label black writing on vinyl not styrene

 

Dreadful sound quality, only good for the bin........................

The red boot on styrene is rare though, I wonder how they got hold of the instrumental?

 

The red boot on styrene is rare though, I wonder how they got hold of the instrumental?

 

I know Simon Soussan befriended Arthur Wright, perhaps from that ?

So the issue went for £670.00, that's quite a lot, seen some demos for sale at £350 - 400. Not sure if Julian Bentley still has one for sale, he was looking for that kind of price (I think)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151778856243?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The red boot on styrene is rare though, I wonder how they got hold of the instrumental?

 

Is that on Troyx ?

So the issue went for £670.00, that's quite a lot, seen some demos for sale at £350 - 400. Not sure if Julian Bentley still has one for sale, he was looking for that kind of price (I think)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151778856243?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Hi Chris

I have an issue as you quite rightly say.

It's never been in the 'sales box' though

Hi Chris, I have an issue as you quite rightly say. It's never been in the 'sales box' though

Hi Julian, you did have a demo for sale a while back, guess sold now ?

Hi Julian, you did have a demo for sale a while back, guess sold now ?

Hi Chris

no, not me.