Hi all, not sure if this is the right place for this but can someone tell me which version of Clarence Carter's - Messin' With My Mind is played out, the 7" or the 12".

Heard it at the Jersey weekender over the the last few days.

Gonna see if I can look out for a copy.

much obliged

Dusty

Can't be that much difference. The US 7" is 4 mins 11 secs in length & the UK 12" is also 4 mins 11 secs. However the UK 7" is only 3 Mins 37 sec long.

So did you see the record going round on the deck ? (I guess not otherwise you'd already know if it was 7", 12", US or UK).

Back in the day, it was easy & cheap to get on both UK formats. Now the UK 7" is a lot more expensive, so I'd guess it's that format that's getting the plays these days.

Thanks Roburt, much appreciated.

Dusty

Title easily confused with the Lenny Williams Modern Soul play too!

Hi Thinksmart, definitely not Lenny Williams 45.

cheers

Dusty

Also came out in 1986 in the UK with the a & b sides swapped

Thanks Richard, most interesting. Didn't know that.

Much appreciated

Dusty

The Tout Ensemble version got a spin at the Blackpool Tower last weekend in the main room, Sunday evening session, either Rod and Jimmy or Kev and Ozz. Great record and a brilliant session.

Thanks Mickey, Much Appreciated.

Dusty

Can remember Terry Jones playing this back when it was a new release when he had the Spread Eagle in Shoreditch, immediately went and got one.

Edited Friday at 19:361 day by Richard

29 minutes ago, Richard said:

Can remember Terry Jones playing this back when it was a new release when he had the Spread Eagle in Shoreditch, immediately went and got one.

I've very recently bought my 3rd copy on here . Having sold up a few times etc etc , But I'm sure that it was played in a live club/ Bar scene , in a USA movie back in the 80s , but it could have been Otis Clay , Anyone know who & which movie , VHS so could now be lost .

The Tout Ensemble version seems to be around a lot more on 12". The 7" version doesn't have the length of the track listed. Is it the same as the earlier Certain UK version (3m 37s) ?

The Tout Ensemble label was a part of Certain Records, so I guess it is the same version. I have copies of both UK 7"ers but I've no idea where either of them are (too many boxes to pull out to check -- the wife would go mad).

Tout Ensemble got the UK license for William Bell’s Passion album, originally on Wilbe. That was a major release for me back in 1986.

1 minute ago, Mickey Finn said:

Tout Ensemble got the UK license for William Bell’s Passion album, originally on Wilbe. That was a major release for me back in 1986.

Yes, they put out his "Headline News" on 45 ... another great track.

23 minutes ago, Roburt said:

The Tout Ensemble version seems to be around a lot more on 12". The 7" version doesn't have the length of the track listed. Is it the same as the earlier Certain UK version (3m 37s) ?

The Tout Ensemble label was a part of Certain Records, so I guess it is the same version. I have copies of both UK 7"ers but I've no idea where either of them are (too many boxes to pull out to check -- the wife would go mad).

Yes, and it’s not a remix

Edited Friday at 21:061 day by Richard

It would be good to know more about the story behind Tout Ensemble. Wilbe ended up being distributed by Ichiban, which was the source of Clarence Carter’s output of that time.

10 minutes ago, Mickey Finn said:

It would be good to know more about the story behind Tout Ensemble. Wilbe ended up being distributed by Ichiban, which was the source of Clarence Carter’s output of that time.

From Discogs doesn’t seem a lot was put out on Tout Ensemble and the Upfront album I’m sure was on the Serious label?

https://www.discogs.com/label/78066-Tout-Ensemble-Records?srsltid=AfmBOopE3jgMfOq5BtCI7aEGTMpmBFQxFpzCY8I_pRRqhZmKfeoRRxyh

Edited Friday at 21:201 day by Richard

Just looked and some tracks were also issued by Absolute Records and the release numbers on Tout Ensemble all have Lute

17 hours ago, Richard said:

From Discogs doesn’t seem a lot was put out on Tout Ensemble and the Upfront album I’m sure was on the Serious label?

https://www.discogs.com/label/78066-Tout-Ensemble-Records?srsltid=AfmBOopE3jgMfOq5BtCI7aEGTMpmBFQxFpzCY8I_pRRqhZmKfeoRRxyh

Serious was a relatively short-lived rival to Morgan Khan’s Streetsounds empire. Their compilations were similarly put together, featuring licensed then current or upcoming club hits in an affordable package. Mahesh Bajaj was the guy behind the label, and several other successors:

https://www.discogs.com/artist/395759-Mahesh-Bajaj?srsltid=AfmBOopZkVDj_Xrg3qc4K-Moz-C8cryGQ6EZkW5yASuXAmfEHska4yfw