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Now this post is not meant to scaremonger in anyway

But I am hoping for some honest opinions on where collectors see the collecting side of the scene going, lets be real, its never going to last forever, we have some young folk attending and maybe a younger generation abroad appreciating this scene called Northern but is it enough to sustain a healthy record buying market

Top tunes will for now ! have buyers wiling to shell out a couple of grand etc, but what happens when we have a generation of collectors who say to themselves thats it now

time to cash in, only to find theres not enough people out there willing to pay the prices they were prepared to pay, if we are honest with each other, there must be a number out there who look upon there collections as there pension, there nest egg, not all, but some, but as a starter how do you see the scene in say 15 years, I personaly will be over 60 and a I know a lot of my friends will be in that era and age group, will we see a record crunch where lots of the £100 + tunes around today fail to fetch 30% of there prices as the market is flooded with collections and people trying to cash in, I think its been apparant over the last couple of years some collectors have already taken advantage of todays prices

Speaking to a couple of my very old collecting mates, we disscussed this very subject over the weekend, we mentioned how a great number of the doo-wop & rock & roll collecting fraternity had sold up many years ago for this very reason, just not enough younger collectors coming through

I may add I unfortunatley will not be in such a position as a divorce some years back put paid to any dreams I had of a nest egg, although through my records I was able to start my life back on the property ladder :lol:

Its just something I ask myself

& wonder how others see it I know it wont realy bother some folk but other may be very reliant on there investments, just thought it made a good topic for discussion

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If anyone seriously collects soul 45s as an investment/nest egg/pension, then they need their head examining. It's a hobby, and an expensive one, serviced by a few people who make a living from buying & selling. If everyone starts selling to "cash-in", then it will be bargain basement time IMHO.

Spot on!...

My other 'hobby' is MG's (Cars), a mint concourse 60's example of a roadster may be worth anything up to £10K ie 10 times is original value..... trouble is it cost £15K to restore it to concourse!..

This 'crash' should it come about all happened before in the early 90's when people bought 'collectables' as an investment during the Yuppie exesses of the 80's and thus when it all went tits-up they got there fingers (and wallets) burnt..

Buy it cos' you like it, not to make money!..

Does anyone remember a bloke who used to always stand at the back of the main room at Wigan, just in front of the doors but back from the dancefloor, dressed completely differently to everyone else and obviously older, but most memorable feature was that he always used to be smoking a pipe! I didn't imagine this, someone else must have seen him as he was there a lot.

:lol: Poor old Pete, the years are taking there toll I am afraid :lol:

Pipe Smokers at Wigan, Whatever next

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:yes: Poor old Pete, the years are taking there toll I am afraid no.gif

Pipe Smokers at Wigan, Whatever next

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I think he also wore a deerstalker hat

I think he also wore a deerstalker hat

Pipe smoker ? ......

Was it Jimmy Con - dor - well ? ......

Malc Burton

Know a couple of rockabilly collectors that got out bout 5 years ago and made a nice profit,generally its a passion thing and where your heart lies,most collectors duck and dive ,surely that is part of the fun!This country is really inundated with older collectors but go to the US and Europe and the trend is slightly younger.Austin record fair last year loads of US younger collectors buying alot of the soulful latino stuff etc,my point being we all cannot presume that in 5-10 perhaps twenty years time their will be a market for the rarer northern stuff![dealers may disagree but their will admit that trends on the northern scene are more fickle than any other scene!

Another really iteresting point is supply and demand ,now on the northern scene that is shaped by the bigger djs etc breaking records and other factors such as word of mouth,the emphasis on rarity ,exclusivity etc,how good the record is,certain records for certain venues etc,in 20 years time alot of us will be nearing 65-70 so will any of us be getting to all nighters [highly inlikely],so it may be the case that within the next 5-10 years alot of people do jump ship to try and redeem their value?

Ican only speak for myself and use my suBjective experience and i would say that my collection is my pride and joy and after selling a bulk in 97 to pay for law school [yes this big thick lump is educated lol]i would not go down that road again!

HOW DO YOU VALUE A LIFELONG OBSSESSION AND WAY OF LIFE?

BAZ A

when you stand back and look at how much the scene has changed over the last 3 years or so,I would be scared to death, if I considerd my collection to be worth 50 - 100 grand,another couple of years .....I dont know, thing is a lot of the faces are just not there anymore, loads of handbaggers but the people you used to see on a regular basis where are they ?

:) Bazza

Funny that bazza "Steve L and me use to say that in the mid eighties" when the scene was dead in some peoples eyes :D , but people seem to resurface time and time again...Some of you might be ready for the knackers yard,but has we all know the northern scene will go on and on!.Try telling a collector to sell his treasured tunes tomorrow i know what the answer will be... f55k off... :P

Funny that bazza "Steve L and me use to say that in the mid eighties" when the scene was dead in some peoples eyes :) , but people seem to resurface time and time again...Some of you might be ready for the knackers yard,but has we all know the northern scene will go on and on!.Try telling a collector to sell his treasured tunes tomorrow i know what the answer will be... f55k off... :D

Ay, dont be cheeky tongue.gif got a couple of years left in me old bones yet :P

Bazza

got the shock of his life when he saw me once when he was emtying the bins,think he liked to make out he was a bit more than a dustman :D

Bazza

I'm pretty sure there is a particularly well dressed binman who is a regular contributor on here Bazza :P

Ay, dont be cheeky :) got a couple of years left in me old bones yet :D

Bazza

I didnt mention any names Bazza :P .... biggrin.gif

I'm pretty sure there is a particularly well dressed binman who is a regular contributor on here Bazza :P

The chap im thinking of always had a white tuxedo on,always looked immaculate, recone he must be 60+ now, never new his name

Bazza

bin men in tuxedo's,pipe smokers in Wigan wearing Deerstalker hats.............

THIS IS MORE LIKE IT CHAPS :thumbsup: .

BTW it wasn't Garry Churm was it?

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