There is a U.S. dealer - ARISDISC , from Grands Rapids , Michigan , who is current selling on eBay , with the stated phrase / wording below , in his sales promotion blurb ........

" All of my records are guaranteed original pressings "

Malc Burton

There is a U.S. dealer - ARISDISC , from Grands Rapids , Michigan , who is current selling on eBay , with the stated phrase / wording below , in his sales promotion blurb ........

" All of my records are guaranteed original pressings "

Malc Burton

Same as me Malc all my pressings are originals.....lol

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Edited November 30, 200816 yr by Mark Bicknell

When I started collecting the term pressing was the term used for bootlegs,never used it meself,boots is boots and pressings are records either originals,re issues or counterfeits if ya see what I mean,going to work now,on a Sunday yagh!

When I started collecting the term pressing was the term used for bootlegs,never used it meself,boots is boots and pressings are records either originals,re issues or counterfeits if ya see what I mean,going to work now,on a Sunday yagh!

That is what I was attempting to get at - the difference between one person's / country's terminology , and the interpration of it here in the UK , based on the original usage of / for the word / phrase on the soul scene ..........

Malc Burton

When I used to go to 'Nighters back in the 70s illegal copies were always called pressings - bootlegs were never mentioned. According to Wikipedia there are several different types of illegal record issues:

Bootlegs: Bootlegging is trafficking in recordings that the record companies have not commercially released , typically live concerts or studio out-takes or acetates.

Piracy: Piracy is the illegal copying/sale of recordings that are (or have been) available commercially or are planned/scheduled for commercial release.

Counterfeits: Counterfeits attempt to mimic the look of officially released product; pirate releases do not necessarily do so, possibly substituting cover art or creating new compilations of a group's released songs. A counterfeit is always a pirate but a pirate is not necessarily a counterfeit.

Therefore most of the 'bootlegs' on the Northern scene are actually pirates or counterfeits.

'Pressings' are most likely legal second issues made with the permission of the copyright owner.

Terminology aside I've bought a few from him and they're all proper - he's also a nice bloke (well, from his emails) lets you know what's going on with your 45's, quick delivery & reasonable too ......

..............and no, I'm not his cousin

When I started collecting the term pressing was the term used for bootlegs,never used it meself,boots is boots and pressings are records either originals,re issues or counterfeits if ya see what I mean,going to work now,on a Sunday yagh!

I feel for you going to work so that you buy more records to play at Bangor on friday lol hope to be there

Edited November 30, 200816 yr by bazrico

I've been collecting for 30 years and all that time I've been hearing the word "pressing" in the context of how a record was issued - ex. "the red label pressing, the small print pressing, etc."

Dave Moore has broken my habit of using that word to describe an original record. In the US, a boot is a boot or a repro.

-J.

For once, it's US that's in the wrong!

(by "US", I mean "we over here", not to be confused with U.S., ie. "those over there"....)

Edited December 1, 200816 yr by mel brat

not just a US/UK difference - i've only ever heard the word 'pressing' used to mean 'repress' in the Northern Soul scene.

not just a US/UK difference - i've only ever heard the word 'pressing' used to mean 'repress' in the Northern Soul scene.

It's really just another mealy-mouthed attempt to give illegal 'pressings', (ie. dirty rotton bootlegs) some measure of respectabilty. Typical British hypocrisy!

Edited December 3, 200816 yr by mel brat

There is a U.S. dealer - ARISDISC , from Grands Rapids , Michigan , who is current selling on eBay , with the stated phrase / wording below , in his sales promotion blurb ........

" All of my records are guaranteed original pressings "

Malc Burton

When selling a record and putting in the description "West Coast issue from the Monarch Pressing Plant" guarantees it the kiss of death.............

Chris L