45cellar Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Original DEMO Styrene with "Bell Sound" Matrix - Both Sides Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) This Is The One That's In Dispute. I must admit to having bought it from a Source where there was a higher proportion of Boots/ Counterfeits. It is on Vinyl, but does have a "Bell Sound" Stamp (Both Sides), albeit on slight angle. Edited January 6, 2009 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Itcould just be the angle on the pic but the 'B' in Bell sound appears to be different - any chance of a clearer close up? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) Itcould just be the angle on the pic but the 'B' in Bell sound appears to be different - any chance of a clearer close up? Yes, I will try again Tomorrow. When I noticed the the Original Post in Look At Your Box the Day Light was going Should get a better picture in Daylight. Edited September 21, 2012 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 This Is The One That's In Dispute. I must admit to having bought it from a Source where there was a higher proportion of Boots/ Counterfeits. It is on Vinyl, but does have a "Bell Sound" Stamp (Both Sides), albeit on slight angle. this looks very like the bootleg picture in manships guide 5th edition "with fake bell sound stamp" gogs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) this looks very like the bootleg picture in manships guide 5th edition "with fake bell sound stamp" gogs Thanks Mate, I haven't bought a copy of the 5th Edition Yet. Someone went to a lot of trouble if it is a fake Stamp. I will attempt a close up of this "Bell Sound" Stamp. AND Compare. Update: 07-01-09 Edited January 7, 2009 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 My issue is styrene but looking at the demo on here the production credits on the right hand side my copy hascurtis mayfield on two lines and has no intro or fade times. was there more than one pressing cheers Ian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 My issue is styrene but looking at the demo on here the production credits on the right hand side my copy hascurtis mayfield on two lines and has no intro or fade times. was there more than one pressing cheers Ian Yes, I have seen different Label Variations on the Original. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) Itcould just be the angle on the pic but the 'B' in Bell sound appears to be different - any chance of a clearer close up? - Managed a Slightly Better Picture in Daylight Edited January 7, 2009 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I just did a close comparison between the "Bell Sound" stamp on my original styrene issue copy and the photos of the bootleg/second issue that has been posted above. The stamps are VERY similar but they are different and both records can not have been pressed from the same stampers. For example: look at how the "line" in the letter "B" leans differently in each of the scans below. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) I just did a close comparison between the "Bell Sound" stamp on my original styrene issue copy and the photos of the bootleg/second issue that has been posted above. The stamps are VERY similar but they are different and both records can not have been pressed from the same stampers. For example: look at how the "line" in the letter "B" leans differently in each of the scans below. These are Excellent, Thanks Sebastian. Does show the Difference Clearly, The STAMP must have been quite a lot of trouble to make, no doubt. In the Case of "The Voices Of East Harlem" ALL THAT AND THEN A POOR LABEL for the BOOT. I wonder if any other records have this fake Stamp Edited January 7, 2009 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 - Managed a Slightly Better Picture in Daylight Thanks, Exactly as it appeared to me, with the 'B' not looking 'quite right'. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blunny Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Just purchased a issue copy of this. Which, from photos I've seen of it, looks very much like the demo in the picture in the first post. Not received it yet but I'll be having a good look at it when it does arrive. I'll post up my findings. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blunny Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Just purchased a issue copy of this. Which, from photos I've seen of it, looks very much like the demo in the picture in the first post. Not received it yet but I'll be having a good look at it when it does arrive. I'll post up my findings. A bit later than first anticipated, but better late than never. The issue copy I got is more or less the same as the Demo in the top post. Obviously there is no reference to Promo on there and there are ni 'Intro' or 'Fade' times. Otherwise it is exactly the same. Might be the scan/picture but this issue looks a more light cream colour. The 'Bell Sound' stamp is in the same place relative to the 'Just Sunshine' logo and the matrix number is etched 'PMB-27815-AS-1-1-1'. Directly opposite at 6 oclock to the etched matrix is an etched 'PR'. There is also what looks like 'SR' lightly etched on both sides about an inch from the 'Bell Sound' stamp. I'll have to get this scanner sorted out so I can contribute a few piccy's. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 A bit later than first anticipated, but better late than never. The issue copy I got is more or less the same as the Demo in the top post. Obviously there is no reference to Promo on there and there are ni 'Intro' or 'Fade' times. Otherwise it is exactly the same. Might be the scan/picture but this issue looks a more light cream colour. The 'Bell Sound' stamp is in the same place relative to the 'Just Sunshine' logo and the matrix number is etched 'PMB-27815-AS-1-1-1'. Directly opposite at 6 oclock to the etched matrix is an etched 'PR'. There is also what looks like 'SR' lightly etched on both sides about an inch from the 'Bell Sound' stamp. I'll have to get this scanner sorted out so I can contribute a few piccy's. Many Thanks For The Info, Hope You Get Scanner Sorted Out. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Ok label variations on these two but the matrix is a bit strange as well. Both Bell Sound stamp the first disc with no stereo has a number of PMB-27816-BS-1-1-1BELL SOUND SR PR PMB.27815.AS-2 BELL SOUND SR68923 but backwards then an back to front S very boldly stamped. Both are the same cut. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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