Guest Rich Walker Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 (edited) Hi all, i've been after this 45 for a while. However, i'm a bit worried about the seller. What do you guys think? Rufus Wood Thanks for your help. Best wishes, Rich. P.S... Has this been booted? What should I look out for? Edited April 3, 2007 by Rich Walker Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Hi all, i've been after this 45 for a while. However, i'm a bit worried about the seller. What do you guys think? Rufus Wood Thanks for your help. Best wishes, Rich. Hi Rich, I can't comment on the seller mate but what i will say is this is a pressing/second issue call it what you will, the original is green with blue script and is a pretty hard record to locate £500.00 plus, the boots are pretty hard to find too, two great sides on this record. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Hi Rich, I can't comment on the seller mate but what i will say is this is a pressing/second issue call it what you will, the original is green with blue script and is a pretty hard record to locate £500.00 plus, the boots are pretty hard to find too, two great sides on this record. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Hi Mark Just to make it more difficult, it came out in two original formats, blue print and black. Need runout groove info, where's Johnny M. Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Rich Walker Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Thanks mark. Thats a big help. Don't suppose you know where I could find a soundclip of Ghettoville do you? Thanks again. All the best, Rich. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Hi Mark Just to make it more difficult, it came out in two original formats, blue print and black. Need runout groove info, where's Johnny M. Dave Are you sure Dave? i always thought the black prints were second issues??? your right where's JM....lol Mark Bicknell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-R Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 (edited) The black print copies are second issues (as far as I'm aware). The matrix will have 'RE' scratched in after the number. If truth be told, I'm led to believe that these are legitimate US second issues taken from the original stamper. Edited April 3, 2007 by Gene-R Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 The black print copies are second issues (as far as I'm aware). The matrix will have 'RE' scratched in after the number. If truth be told, I'm led to believe that these are legitimate US second issues taken from the original stamper. Cheers Gene, where did you get that information from just out of interest. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-R Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Cheers Gene, where did you get that information from just out of interest. Regards - Mark Bicknell. My own copy Mark! Although I did hear an inkling a year ago that it was legit (can't remember where though - may have been a forum topic here). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 (edited) Mine has LH - 5117 - RE scratched into the run out groove. Regards - Mark Bicknell.SWScan00039.BMP Edited April 3, 2007 by Mark Bicknell Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-R Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Mine has LH - 5117 - RE scratched into the run out groove. Regards - Mark Bicknell. That's interesting Mark - yours is a defo original. Wonder if they all have RE scratched into the run-out? And where's John when you need him! Curioser and curioser, as Alice said............................ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Rich Walker Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Cheers for all the info guys. So, what should I be looking for on an original? Blue font on a green label with the matrix number: LH - 5117 - RE ? Was the 2nd press properly licenced? Thanks again for your help. Cheers, Rich. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Keithw Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Cheers for all the info guys. So, what should I be looking for on an original? Blue font on a green label with the matrix number: LH - 5117 - RE ? Was the 2nd press properly licenced? Thanks again for your help. Cheers, Rich.the other 2 records he has for sale look like boots too Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 The blue text is the FIRST PRESS Black text is the SECOND PRESS the second press used the original stampers so the deadwax matrix is identical. So the Black Text is not a BOOTLEG just a second press circa 1976.. Blue Text is £500+ Black text has sold for as much as a £100 hope that helps Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 The blue text is the FIRST PRESS Black text is the SECOND PRESS the second press used the original stampers so the deadwax matrix is identical. So the Black Text is not a BOOTLEG just a second press circa 1976.. Blue Text is £500+ Black text has sold for as much as a £100 hope that helps Thank's John i was half right then..lol Regards - Mark Bicknell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest martyn Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Mine has LH - 5117 - RE scratched into the run out groove. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Lovelly scan of an all time great .........I bet you just love Ian Gill though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Lovelly scan of an all time great .........I bet you just love Ian Gill though Martyn, how odd you mentioned Ian Gill??? i got my copy from a collector in Sweden a few years back and i noticed 'Ian Gillbrand' written in the run out groove..i take it that's what you are refering too? Regards - Mark Bicknell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Martyn, how odd you mentioned Ian Gill??? i got my copy from a collector in Sweden a few years back and i noticed 'Ian Gillbrand' written in the run out groove..i take it that's what you are refering too? Regards - Mark Bicknell. So you're the one who got Hasse's copy? That guy has got quite a collection! Not to mention his reggae stuff! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Thank's John i was half right then..lol Regards - Mark Bicknell. Mr. Bicknell we're DJing together in April..is this an all-time first?? I'm looking forward seeing you again. John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Mr. Bicknell we're DJing together in April..is this an all-time first?? I'm looking forward seeing you again. John Hi John Memory is getting poor these days, but I'm sure there was a green bootleg but with one of those nasty paper lables with lots of bubbles under the label. Bit like one of the east coast pressing plants ? Hows the King Of Soul Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Mr. Bicknell we're DJing together in April..is this an all-time first?? I'm looking forward seeing you again. John We certainly are Mr Manship, however you have better records in your 'bargain basement' than i have in my DJ box so it should be interesting....lol be good to cath up and perhaps discuss 'Manships Selections' returning on the show....and yes i think this is a first for us DJ'ing at the same venue on the same night, really looking forward to it John...see you there. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 hello,i purchased the rufus wood 45 at a st ives all-nighter in the mid 70s when it was a big tune,plus i also have copys of the sellers other two 45s,billy woods and the gems,all three of the sellers 45s look exactly the same as my copys and i know they are boots i think they cost me about £1-ish?? at the time,cant look for them now they are up in the dreaded loft somewhere...soulie55 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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