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HI ALL, SORRY! but sometimes I find myself SHOUTING "4 F SAKE" no offence intended, but just to remind all REGGEA & SKA Collectors, JAMAICA is a 3rd world country, they will use any material to make labels, boxes LP sleeves, there is no romantic notion, on disposable dance music, if it was available? it was available, seems like some good money to be made here? by the way, forinfo only, I got my copy when it was released, a Martin B record, please cough! as I got to get off? the BAMBOO has the Strings & Tings, just for me? also I listed this tune when I joined SS, and SOUL SAM is an old freind of mine, GOOD LUCK.WITH THE SALE! WHERE IT IS? I DON'T NO! PON DE PLATTER, THAT'S WHERE IT IS. SIR D.I MEAN!

HI ALL,,,C is for?......CHESS RECORDS, and as always It's on BRITISH I always seem to be crediting, my old mate, the "mouth of the south" (that's south of the river} the BERMONDSEY BARROW BOY, Mick SMITH, for being the person who turned me on to records like this one? but it's a fact! for me at least. this has to be one of the few records, that grows & grows on you, a bit like a BLACK & WHITE X RATED MOVIE, I LOVED IT FROM THE FIRST TIME IT WAS PLAYED TO ME! and in 2011/12 I could easy see a cover version of it become a HIT for some SORT with pink lippy & blond Barnett, Let's call her "SCRUFFY"? However this RARE CHESS SOUND, comes from the voice of Benice Swanson - CHESS CRS 8008. "LYING AWAKE" - VALUE £80 ISSUE, DEMO £ V-RARE, DK RATING *****A Perfic 60's MOD sound. Thanks to Pete Smith's BEAT-IN RHYTHM MAG for the flyer, which states all you need to know? GROOVY BABY, DAVE

HI ALL...I GOT THIS FROM RODGER NICHOLS YEARS AGO, RECORD IS MINT, THE LABEL IS ****ED DAVE

HAPPY HALLOWEEN..HAVE TO LOOK AFTER MY GOOLIES TO-NIGHT. MM AS THERE AIN'T MANY TO PICK FOR TO-DAY? THIS I GOT OF MICK SMITH IN 1975. "The LURCH" - TED CASSIDAY - CAPITOL UK CL 15423 A, OK! IT's a POP RECORD, VALUE £25 DEMO, But it is a good one, from the box, getting it's yearly play RATE*** I was going to pick the TORCH PLAY from CHICAGO. What's it called? DAVE

HI Some nice stuff, FUNKY STUFF come out on COBLESTONE, As your find had a UK Release although you have arealy nice JB FUNK RECORD with the SOULFUL voice of the GREAT VICKI ANDERSON I would value it as for what it is rather than a money value which is about £4, if you like this type of music and my tip is start to collect the MOJO label as it has many of the best funk at an afordable price in fact if i DJ with my MOJO 45, IT WOULD BE MOVE OVER KEB TIME? DAVE say's BUY MOJO 46s

:hatsoff2:HI ALL I was certain I put these on today?? again it is EMI early 70's, but looks nice with the EMI 45, & OF MY FAVORITE INDIAN RELEASES, AND A TRUE EARLY SOUL SOUND WHATEVER THE LABEL, AGAIN I NEVER NO THE VALUE OF THIS TYPE OF VINYL? DAVE

I Must state that my interpretation of "who is/was SOUL BOTHER/SISTER #1" Was based on the excepted political meaning of how the term arrived in the English language, the speeches of Dr KING, are so SOULFUL & INFLUENTIAL especially when you consider how the raciest society that was the norm in 60's USA, Growing up in the 60's and leaving school in the summer of LOVE 67, no mater how tuff my childhood had been, has no comparison with what your life was like as a BLACK person. bigots and racists were virtually most of our parents and the UK was the white homeland., in safe old England only the under 25s were becoming politically aware, in 69 the TROUBLES BEGAN and it was from that point we started to take notice of issues like equality? The BLACK American had been aware for 300 years, In 68/69 I was having fun in my experimental latent years with sex drugs soul and the freedom of being a loud mouth thug, embracing fashion that I still enjoy to-day, the situation in the US for the poor whites and most BLACKS was worse than what was happening in SOUTH AFRICA, with the Watts riots and the Detroit riots in the North, while in the South BLACK People were still segregated, and lynchings were common practice of BLACKS done by the red kneckers & the KKK, As stated we have Little comprehension of how brave it was for people to even suggest FREEDOM, Dr KINGS stand and fight for freedom with just words as his weapon of truth is for many BLACK PEOPLE the #1 gift of how he was prepared to die, and reach his promised land. and for millions of people there is no other, only NELSON MANDELA comes to mind? However if you are using the term as to how vocally strong in a musical context, it's all about personal taste, to join the 2 to-gather to complete this argument DAVE GODIN said in 1979 "do what's right, not what's white" a profound statement to educate readers of B&S, So with that in mind I will say "that for this thread SOUL BROTHER #1 is the late great MARVIN GAYE with AM&J TMG734 DAVE

HI ALL, Although I have most UK Tamla-Motown 45s including both R&W G&W DEMO'S, This may sound strange, but I have never paid much for any of the 45s nothing over £20 including the R&W DEMO'S, and as long as it's to my taste, I buy it. Over many years of collecting, the Rare mint records were quickly swapped for Northern Soul, However since Ebay has come along the prices of some records are not far off what I got for all of them back in the 70s, This brings me to ask about what did EMI Ireland release? and what are the values of the rare issues and demo's? I have put a copy of Marv Johnson's Irish classic, if this was released as it was not a big seller in the UK, WHAT IS THE IRISH STORY OF TMG, DAVE,

HI ALL..I have always assumed that there term SOUL BROTHER #1, was from the people who become mentors & inspired unity togetherness with a voice to promote FREEDOM from emancipation by removing the chains of slavery, by direct challenge, by facing the fear of fear, unconditionally without self reward but to achieve FREEDOM, without doubt the list would name millions, however in historical terms, Strong activists for a common cause are highlighted, For many the struggle of life and to survive the dark side, you have to acquire Self Awareness, until you understand that the person you are today is a product of other peoples beliefs and not yours by doing this you will have acquired FAITH, by trusting others who have a strong FAITH, you will get HOPE, and with this you can educate and enlighten others by your CHARITY. Many people would say GOD is the #As it is your GOD that you will finally turn to, there is a saying "there has never been a at the best on the battle fied?". However as a Counselor GOD does not exist nor does FATHER CHRISTMAS or the TOOTH FAIRY as a child your parents lied to you! fact, anything like that example is what we call parental as there is no factual evidence of it being true? GOD is DEAD! is an ADULT response religion is a weapon of power to keep the majority from rebelling against the rich, The BIBLE and KORAN teaches us through scriptures of how hard it is to find GOD and those who become Prophets of GOD, Have all done one thing, and it is the hardest test of FAITH there is, to spend 40 DAYS & 40 NIGHTS ALONE IN THE WILDERNESS, If you know any one that has achieved this, you have to trust them, I have been put on BREAD & WATER for 9 days while in Borstal, so 40 days & nights is a tuff challenge, as this thread is SOUL related and through the History of Black American music and West Indian music the message if injustice is to the forefront, the reason and the logic of why the huge majority of the world can't sing SOUL is nothing to do with color it's because the BLACK MAN who lives in the AMERICAS has 300 years of imposed slavery in there Psyche every one of them, that's why apart from a very Small number of BLACK AFRICANS don't have? So to conclude the SOUL BROTHER #1 is Dr MARTIN LUTHER KING, and supported by the many people such as MOHAMMAD ALI and even LBJ, the KENNEDY'S, ARETHA, and the GODFATHER of SOUL Mr JAMES BROW RIP. Just by seeing these people and many many more like minded, gives you PEACE. AMEN. DAVE KILWORTH Counselor.

HI IAN 'N' PETE,, What do you mean just occurred and probably! last year I actually wrote about the volumes on PAMA and what was a legit release and any record with copyright control, was at best iffy, however after reading the issues about Simon are nothing compared to the set up at JET STAR/PAMA LTD COMPANY, THE BROTHERS have to be liked as they worked and ran the company in true Jamaican Style, the word SKANK ING is how to describe them as there is no English word, I could make one up like artherism dailyite or skamering, a small piece of info by a cleaner at Buckingham Palace ended up as a request from Chuck to put an LP out LP sell to the JAP'S? the company took on the name of JET STAR in late 67, from a deal with BOBBY PATTERSON to release his records in Europe this enabled them to call a further company JET STAR INTERNATIONAL. they also had a PAMA INTERNATIONAL CO and PAMA SUPREME as label to issue US MATERIAL? But you 2 know all this I think? therefor I am DAVE.

HI A good question, It's never stopped! in fact you here about it all the while, as it's information that the record is only for personal use! It was put on records by the insistance of the MU (musition union) before the Rock & Roll years, musicions got paid by the Band leader, and song poblishers got paid by selling sheet music, quite often they would by songs from the public at a cost of 10/- a song, the most famouse place to sell or by songs was in TIN PAN ALLEY (DENMARK STREET) SOHO,, However once the Rock & Roll records become popular and the record size ans speed changed in 1954, the first nails where being hamerd home and in 1958 the UK fuly embraced records from the US, even established continental radio sounded Americam and the first radio DJ become as popular as thhe music they played on RADIO 208 LUXEMBURG, PETE MURRY & ALEN(FLUFF)FREEMON, WHERE 2 OF THE STATIONS TOP DJ's with there Ausey twang to the vioce, But the big threat come from a Yorkshire minor who persauded the Mecca Dancehalls to let him play records instead of the band trying to play the hits of the day, the DJ Was Jimmy "now then now then sad man" Savile. he was the first recognised DJ who played records from 2 turntables, All this hapened very quick, and the MU members where loseing there jobs, as more DJs emerged, in london the all night cafe's that had been the start of the UK Tedy boy scene with it's trad Jazz or Skiffle music was replaced by a biger JUKE BOX, the sound of black America took over and with the music the TEDDY BOTS & the TRAD JAZZ soap dodgers where replaced by a more astute sub culture who where comfortable in embracing black people and haveing fun in the seady SOHO Streets with it's gambling houses brothals strip tease XXX CINIMAS homosexuals talking polari! drugs and the SCENE CLUB OR THE FLAMINGO where the live music was MOD, as TIN PAN ALLEY CRUMBLED the biggest cick in the face come from the NORTH SEA with RADIO CAROLINE and RADIO LONDON, BIG L,as a kid I wasthe right age for PIRATE RADIO, but it was the final straw for the MU, up until 1965 the MU had banned live music from the US playing in the UK, this is why all black music had a white artist doing a cover, many people have wrongly made an assumption of racism, maybe but the main reason was for them to make money by releasing a UK cover, but some people like Ronan O'Rilty the owner of RADIO CAROLINE NORTH & SOUTH pot out 3 goergie Fame 45s on the indy label R&B at the same time the LONDON in-crowd played black music in the clubs and DAVE GODIN GUY STEVENS CHRIS BLACKWELL championed the cause also the rise in white bands with a newsort of band leader ALEXIS KORNER & JOHN MAYELL had so many top sesion players come through the ranks playing a truer black sound, and over 3 years even the Lyceam got rid of JOE LOSS (March of the MODS) did not save him, the biggest influance in this transition where the Beatles In the early 1970s the musixions union had it's breakthrough, with the slogan "KEEP MUSIC LIVE" by making the BBC play at least 4 hours of live music in evey 18 hours of air time, this is why we had the RADIO SESSIONS IN CONCERT, and TOP OF THE POPS, THE OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST, LATER WITH JOOLSS To conclude the writeing is for anyone who plays any record to a live audiance, they must list and pay the artist, failing todo this has a max sentance of 5 years in the HMP, since digital technolagy has ben with us as you are aware that bit of writing that 99.9% of soulsource DJs ignor sems small fry with illeagal downloads, PLEASE DON'T MOAN ABOUT MY WRITEING DAVE

HI ALL The First pick is from of me box, and was played at the Event of the Year "TORCH 11" last Saturday night, sounded excel ant, the vocal by BOBBY WELLS - BEACON 102 is rare on original yellow label and big at the WHEEL Manchester, however the Inst that come to the UK as ships ballast in 1971 was a TORCH spin "the PSYCHEDELIC THEME" It's got a nice flip side also my record for today from in my box, is another UK Release on PYE INTERNATIONAL 7N 25492 "PUTIN IT ON, PUTTIN# IT OFF" Again this sounds right to me, and would easy fit in with much roarer current music, the A side is also excel ant more up-tempo, but a great dancer, Again this is another recommended record and a bit hard to find, Value ISSUE £20+, DEMO £40+, If played demand could easy double the value. this DEMO was £5 from EBAY, 2 GREAT SOUL SIDES ***** SSHHUSH DAVE, KEEP IT AS A SECRET SOUND!

Hi great LP , the girl on the cover won the dance compitition at Cleathorps, she was from Granthem, a nice place to stop when going to Cleathorps, take a break, I mean time to break into a Chemists and load up, and stop about 10 miles out at the vilage caled Swallow, and do as the sign says, and have a great all-night chew from pier to peir, yes a good pick DAVE

HI A GREAT FIND FOR 35p, the chances of finding a real one in a junk shop would be 98% impossible, as if I remember correct, all the copays were sold to UK dealers in 76 by the owners wife, and even the master stamper was sold, making the first run of issues very rare but on styrene, not sure if they have the Nashville stamp? as the stamper would not of left the record plant if it had a distributor's monocle on, most copies are still worth £10+ first run copays £30, if you can find one?

HI Another great choice, OK! some younger members would feel that this is a cheap not rare soul? however this record was massive at BLACKPOOL MECCA when Tony Jebb played it, and back then, how many where aware it was still available at your local record shop on President? Dave

I Fully understand, and there is no need to be sorry, as I should of took time to reflect back, On a personal I got to met BUTCH through Mick Smith, not as a punter, but one mate introducing me to a Friend that I did not know, the fact that Butch was also a mate of Tim Ashabendy (who I have always looked up to) as such, I will always stick up for them, especially in incidents like this, Over the years that BUTCH has been a DJ, I cant think of any other ex WIGAN DJ, that has given so much to the RARE SOUL SCENE and as a individual has the gift of empathy tto-wardsothers, he is indeed a rreallydecent bloke, It does ssaddenme that others are not inspired by his contribution to the scene, thats not to say I have lLittlerespect for other Wigan DJs but most have some form of iirritationsince the closure of Wigan, and act as if they where above us, Ian Levine is a good example of this? To conclude I just wish for at least 18 months that every one made an effort to try and get back to some of the ununwrittenules of DOE'S & DODON T'Shat made our scene, esespeciallyn a fraternal way, that for me is erveryuch declined in fafavorf small click's who omcompetegainst each other, and establish at least 3 must attend all nighters, not all these liLittleoe's just for the locals, apart from the 100 CLUB where are the other top all nighters in the UK DAVE

HI I totally agree with that one, 2 great sides, and one of the first US imports that I had? My latest record out of my box? no I am sober. I played down the phone (as you do!} is a forgottenn jem on the B side of the MOD CLASSIC "back to Georgia". "I'm a lonely boy" has all theingredientss to be a top play on todays scene, PYE INTERNATIONAL 7N35239 RATED ***** VALUE £40-50 ISSUE, DEMO?? However I got a cop last week of Ebay £5.08 in EX condition, if someone has a sound clip please, buy it blind if you don't no it, I promise you will love it. DAVE

HI PETE I must have done more damage than I released as them years were VERY hedonistic, anyway it was before the TORCH closed (I think!) What year was the 1st boot of DUKE BROWNER and all the CANTERBURY & SOUL-TOWN BOOTS? They were before things like ROCKY ROBERT'S, FREDDIE CHAVEZ, LESLEY UGGAMS and so on, and by 75 you could get most of the early Wigan records on BOOTLEGS, In 73 Chris Button's Out of the Past label turned into the white label OOTP, someone must no the order on when they where released? JM BOOK misses the years out! DAVE

HI MATE Carl Jung put a great emphasis on symbols and how they could be interpreted, however as your use of a handle which means a meadurement of length, maybe! a few words might explain why you chose to high lite my entry, which is adult (factual) answer, as the symbol chosen is parental, which is based on what you have been told, false or true! and verges on you inner child (emotions & feelings) to cover your eyes means fear! and your difficulty to express, yet your user name would suggest that you have a desire to express,? Are your feelings of shame & embarrassment the right ones to use as a reply to my answer about a individual who is not afraid to act on his convictions, with actions that may outrage some, but be fully accepted by others, In this ase a protest from a top collectors / DJ being P***ed of at expensive record in his play list is being played, by someone from a $10 disk in front of him? In all my years on the scene, there are Doe's & Dont's, and the act of the individual is a you Don't do this BIG Time, Bootlegs CD's and all the other crap like badges photo copies that are done for the sole intention to exploit the scene,& make money, memoribila should not be sold at rare soul event's if counterfate? however I agree with Ady C about a large amount of people Will buy these product, however the same people should not try and pass them of as the real genuine product, indeed if they do not know the difference don't exploit them to line your pockets. The SOULFUL thing is to educate them! That would eradicate the need to take matters in hand, why did nobody tell the DJ what is acceptable to play, and why was he playing a record from another DJ play list on the same night, again, that's another no no!! DAVE where has my hammer gone? (I LOVE THE RARE SOUL SCENE) KILWORTH

Hi I am the first to admit that I have many gaps in my Grey matter, and sometimes get things woefully wrong? so to correct this I go by as many bench mark references as I can, in 72 I used to get records from junk shops in Harts & Beds Luton was good, MOORE'S, REDIFUSION, SELECTOR (Hector) Carlo's Bedford, DAVIDS BOOKSHOP & their warehouse in the Spirella building Letchworth, Contempos Hanaway street, Pete Waterman Coventry & Mick Smith, Added to this I look at the many people who went to Blackpool Mecca Torch Up the Junction Bletsoe Market Harboro Shades & the CAT'S who dropped of the scene after the TORCH closed in March 73 and who drifted back at the end of 74, you would be surprised how many faces did not go to Wigan in the first year, Now it's a fact that a Friend of mine & Mick's Billy Mac bought the Butch Baker JOKER on cherub Boot, and he dropped it on the steps coming out of the Cats, knocking a chip in it? now Billy did not go to Wigan nor did most people from the south including Mick, So the record must have ome out in 72? as it was around the time KIETH M, covered Buster Pearson up and be for Jerry Williams and Otis Smith were reissued in 73, I may be wrong, somewhere I have a list of records from that period, i will try and find it?

Hi The answer is NO, as long as you are not threatening to harm anyone, a hammer is not classed as a weapon and as such it does not come under the offensive weapon category, hence it's popularity in the EAST END, Also a club dance hall, is classed as private property, the POLICE are very reluctant to prosecute any acts of violence that are lower than section 18, and for taking a record of a turntable and spinning it away, would not be sen as unlawful at any time, When it comes down to it, unless the clubs owners want to press charges, it would be unable to prosecute, this is why clubs have there own security staff to police, the #1 crime to go to court is theft of belongings, not even the use of Drugs on premises goes to court unless the owner wants it to, as if there is a raid, all you need to do is drop it on the floor, it's the owner who gets done. clubs are shut down when the owner loses control of the club, as it's far to expensive for any police force to do more than 2 major operations in a year, that's why drug dealers like to grass up the competition, with the knowledge that the police budget has become more depleted? DAVE

HI ALL It's a good point!! that applies to many great rare soul sounds that have quality B sides the ALEXANDER PATTON is a typical example of what I believe was PETE'S point, I no TED (#1 midlands DJ) played it, it's a hard one to choose if you have a full dance floor is it the A or B side? As I say there's loads of examples to choose from DAVE

HI Has anyone got issue #2 for sale or swop? please state condition and price, will give a good deal for it, i will consider even a poor copy just to complete the set Dave K

HI DID I SEE AN ISSUE ON PETE SMITHS LAST LIST? PROBER LY GONE BUT WORTH ASKING HIM? DAVE

HI YOU ARE LOOKING AT HUNDREDS OF RECORDS, YOU NO! WHAT ARE YOU AFTER? AS SOME ONES THAT WERE ONCE COMMON ARE NOW HARD TO GET. AND NOT SO LONG AGO MOST WERE UNDER £5, HOWEVER THE COMPLETE RUNS OF PRE-1975 ARE GETTING A HIGHER PRICE AS FOR MANY PEOPLE THERE FIRST NORTHERN SOUL COLLECTIONS, CONSISTED OF BOOTLEGS, EARLY COUNTERFEIT RECORDS SUCH AS ALEXANDER PATTON & JERRY COOK ON CAPITOL AND NOLAN CHANCE, DEE CLARK, & GENE CHANDLER ON CONSTELLATION ARE VERY COLLECTIBLE, I HAVE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED, SEND A LIST OR A PRICE GUIDE ON HOW MUCH YOU WILL PAY, GOOD LUCK DAVE PS I HAVE A SPARE 1ST COPY OF JIMMY RAYE IF YOU WANT IT?