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HI PETE APPARENTLY I HAD KNOWN THIS FOR YEARS, BUT I FORGOT, SO I COME UP WITH THE GUY STEVENS THING? A FEW TEARS AGO ALONG WITH THE STORY OF THE "NIGHT" inst, and the Impressions "you been cheat-in" you no how board you become at a Allister, but wiyj all my story's when i am board there is always lots of very real facts in them to make them plausible, or shall I say a good probability to them and as Mick will state some of the crap is very true, like the Diane Brooks semi instrumental "in my heart" that Mick has had since 1972 and many others, As to the link with President and Jeff King what is the full story that surrounds the SOUL SOUNDS label?? and as I have stated ISLAND did have there own pressing plant and it was shut down in the 80s fact, Before we end this does Jason Knight "our love getting stronger exist on a Blue PYE label?? It's again a plausible outcome that it must off, and I am sure Andy Spencer had one, I remember when I got a stock copy of Rufus Lummley of him, i went to his house when he was selling up, Ted said no, but has anyone seen a copy, it could of been a Irish copy of the reissue, but again has anyone seen one??? DAVE

HI PAUL AND EVEY ONE ELSE, Can I state or reiterate it was a romantic notion of mine on how it come about, it's not true I made it up, I was f**king about having a loon! however it is plausible, I do disagree with you about it only needs money, it also needs willing agent to take the risk of pressing up 29 different records, 28 licensed to EMI under copyright, and it was the late 60s when EMI was at the top of it's game, AL ISLAND RECORDS did have it's own pressing plant, However Tony is right and I got it wrong about them being PHILLIPS PRESSED you would think after 40 yores I would know better (it's all those bloody pills i have necked) any way Island also had contract pressing plants, more to the point How many Test Pressings are known and what is the hardest SOUL SOUND RECORD to get? RESTLESS was mine Keith Minshal was Dobbie Grey out on the floor, I will keep it real for a bit??? DAVE A NORTH HEARTS GANGSTER! it's true I tells ya!

HI ALL TONY STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE BOY! I SAID, "I LIKE TO BELIEVE" I WAS NOT SPEAKING AS SOME EXPERT ON THE SUBJECT, IT'S PLAUSIBLE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THAT MEANS TAKE OF YOUR CRITICAL PARENT HEAD, AND USE YOUR FREE CHILD ONE INSTEAD, island RECORDS AT THAT TIME, WERE IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGE, IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY THE NAME OF THE GAME IS MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU CAN, YOU NO THAT, WHEN I DID MY SMALL BIT, YOU SOON FIND OUT THAT IT;S ALL LINKED TOGETHER IT HAS TO BE, AS WE ALL NO IT'S TUFF AT THE TOP, AND THERE IS NO BETTER EXAMPLE THAN IN THE WORLD OF ENTERTAINMENT! FOR THE RECORD i DON'T NO JEFF KING, BUT I DO HAVE A LITTLE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING WITH ISLANDS STUDIO EQPT AND IF Mr KING USED ISLANDS FACILITIES TO MANUFACTURE EMI s PRODUCT ON THE SCALE HE DID IT MUST HAVE HAD THE NOD FROM SOMEONE, THE DISC'S LOOK SO MUCH LIKE A PHILIP'S PRODUCT TO ME, IF I AM WRONG I AM WRONG, I DON'T KNOW, BUT ISLAND RECORDS AT THAT TIME WITH ALL THE LABELS THAT COME FROM THEM ADVERTS RUGBY SONGS PORNO JINGLES REGGAE AND THE LAUNCH OF THE PINK LABEL EVERY ONE HELPED WE ALL KNOW THE ISLAND STORY, I AM JUST SPICING IT UP, AND GUY STEVENS HAD LEFT SUE AND JOHN ABBEY TOOK ON THE TAIL END OF SUE AND THEN STARTED ACTION, BUT DID GUY STEVENS TOTALLY LEAVE CHRIS BLACKWELL, AND ISLAND, I DO NO HE TOOK LOADS OF ACID AND BECOME RECLUSIVE, BUT HE WAS ALWAYS IN TOUCH, AND DID VERY WELL POST 75, AND ALL THE WORK WITH THAT PUNK BAND THE CLASH, HE WAS OFTEN SCENE IN THE 100 CLUB AND THE ROXY, YOU CAN TAKE THE KID OUT OF THE VENUE? BUT YOU CANT TAKE THE VENUE OUT OF THE KID, BY THE WAY THE RECORDING EQPT USED WAS A 3 TRACK AMPEX, AND ONE DAY I WILL TELL YOU HOW WE DESTROYED 3 SPOOLS OF PRINCE BUSTERS SESSION TO RECORD THE TANNER HILL WEAVERS, A NICE SCOTCH FOLK BAND DAVE "THE ENTERTAINER"

HI ALL SEAN IT SOMETIMES AMAZES ME THAT ITEMS LIKE THIS ARE NOT SNAPPED UP! YOU SAW THIS ALRIGHT, SO DID ROY GELDER, I AM GLAD YOU DID NOT BID, IT WAS ROY WHO TOLD ME AT WOLVES RECORD FAIR THAT THE SAME PERSON SOLD 2 OTHERS A WEEK BEFORE THIS ONE, OF COARSE I CONTACTED THE SELLER, HE DID NOT HAVE CLUE ABOUT RECORDS COLLECTING SOUL NOTHING, HE HAD NO MORE AND HE COME ACROSS THEM ON A LOCAL MARKET SALE. ABOUT THE DEMOS i THINK THE ARE THE ORIGINAL COPIES AS THE MATRIX HAS BEEN RUBBED OUT PROFESSIONALLY, THEY ARE DEFO UK PRESSINGS FROM A PHILIP'S STAMPER. THE GIVE AWAY SIGNS ARE TAKE ANY COPY THE LABEL IS A UK SIZE AMID IT LEAVES EXACTLY ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE ANTI SLIP TO BE PUT ON, AND ALSO THE WHO EVER PRESSED THE OP COULD NOT GET OUT OF THE HABIT OF SCRATCHING THE A B SIDES, I LIKE TO THINK THEY WERE DONE AT ISLAND PRESSING PLANT AND AS THE SUE LABEL FINISHED & THE LAUNCH OF ACTION, A ASSOCIATE OF Mr KIG WHO NEW A MAN WHO WORKED AT THE PLANT, CLEARLY JOHN ABBEY WOULD NOT ENTERTAIN THIS REQUEST, SO IT.S ANORTHER, NOT DAVE GODIN?, IT IS POSSIBLE GUY STEVENS, WITH CHRIS BLACKWELLS OK! LET THEM GO THROUGH, AS THE ORDER COMES TO AROUND 10000 COPIES, SO THIS OPERATION WAS A BUSINESS DEAL FULL ON, NOT SOME ROMANTIC DEALER DOING IT, TO KEEP THE FAITH, NOW THAT EXPLAINS A LOT, I BET I AM NOT FAR OUT, AS I HAVE ISLAND RECORDS PRESSINGS OF ALL KINDS, HENCE THE PORNO DISC, DAVE

HI ALL,,,,, This is a mystery to me? Why dud the SP QR have 2 shots the B side SPQR 102, and which come 1st the SP QR 102 WITH THE UP-TEMPO & MID-TEMPO PRESSING. and then SPQR 102 with JUST ASK ME as the official A side the B side being the MID-TEMPO CUT. And what is the value of the up tempo A side today as I rate it, and if records like STANKEYS DAY OFF go from £1 to £100 this worth promoting?? Dave

HI ALL THE SOUL SOUNDS LABEL IS A MUST COMPLETE THING TO DO, ESPECIALLY IN BETWEEN TRYING TO LOCATE THE RARE STUFF LIKE A BUNKY COPY OF JUST LIKE THE WEATHER?? I NO SOMEONE WHO'S GOT ONE???? MT SOUL SOUNDS DEMO IS IN IT'S OWN WAY MY CONTRIBUTION TO THE WEEK THAT DISCLOSURES WHERE MADE? I ONLY NO OF 2 OTHERS ON THE LABEL, BUT THERE ARE IN THEORY 29, TO LOCATE, The marks are of my scenner, i will clean it, the records are mint, DAVE

Hi All And Hi John, As I said in my personal Email to you, I am pleased for you that you have finally found this record, after searching for it for so many years, over that period of time you have along with other top dealers helped collectors build there collections, this fact goes un-noticed for 99% of the time, Also I stated this is my #2 favorite Northern Soul record, yes it is old school, but it evokes many memories that have become latent,,,and let's be honest, after hearing "love reputation" who could deny that £just like the weather" is not a truer testament of what NORTHER SOUL was and was all about in the early 70s, along with such records:- DUKE BROWNER, HESITATIONS, MEL WILLIAMS, JAMES BOUNTY AND FATHERS ANGELS AND SO MANY MANY MORE!, who would not want to own the BUNKY copy, I said on another thread that when Ady had his copy Although I did not see it, it was proof enough for myself to believe it existed, By sharing the info relating to the matrix, you have dispelled the CHICKEN AND EGG questions, and of coarse it has to be along the lines stated, however you have to concede, that the BUNKEY LABEL issue made the story confusing as nothing added up to why would Bill Shepard want to use this record 2 years later?? Now we no he didn't. Also and finally if you are going to auction it I hope it pays you back for the long search for it, it has to be one of the worlds rarest records and certainly a very elusive dusty that's for sure, well done John DAVE KIL

HI ALL ....After the BROWN DOOR - Ma rvin Holmes thread, which has concluded now? that there was no BOOTLEGS, We are now looking at another issue that has caused many red faces over the years, when I had my original box stolen at St Ives in 76 it had a red copy of this excellent record in it, alas today and for many years just have the blue copy, and as i say it is the blue one that seems to be a problem, as I am 100% sure that the blue copy never existed in the 60s, but until 3 weeks ago I was also sure, 100% sure that apart from the plastic copy i have of Marvin Holmes all other copays were re pressings not original issues, The BLUE FAME copies look good in fact they play OK, but I would say value wise, £20 but are we wrong, I say that they are not original. So on that basis I concluded that 1, after having a red copy. you feel that you are right and will always be right. (snobbish view point) 2. my mate MICK SMITH SAYS SO!. Following on from the BROWN DOOR thread, what is the history of the BLUE FAMES James Baronet Copy. and have we mugged our selves over the years. As for the one on Ebay , over the years I have seen records being sold for, both to high and to low, Bobby Hutton UK ABC sold for £150, i have 3 spares, the history behind BOOTLEGS RE PRESSINGS would be a good read, like~ did you know Jeff King had Demo copies of SOUL SOUNDS label made?? DAVE KIL

HI BEARSY this is so annoying it.s happened to me sice I stopped haveing recular payments to the account, even though there is the money in the account, this is why I buy very little these days, the fact that I like to pay within 6 hours of winning makes it a bit harder, plus you can feel as if you have comotted a crime? sounds stupid but true as you are np longer in control/ I really would like to gelp you, in the past I would have paid it for you but my situatuon is still as bad as it was a few months back, unform the seller that you are having a few problems and they will gIve you tI'me to pay, it's when people stop or fail to communicate, that pisses most people off, DAVE

HI ALL On the 3 previous times I sold my collection, I had to keep "good night Irene" Originals Tamla Motown G&W DEMO, got from Mick Smith, and always reminds me of the early years when I fist met the man. and Gene McDaniel's "walk with a winner" UK Liberty, got from Pete WID at Wigan, and indeed this tune for me has that ultimate feeling you get. when you have got something that every body is after but never quite gets it, in the best place to buy a record at an All nighterr, and as a bonus! when you get back home knacked but still Perking. you put on the records you had bought only a few hours before, and in this case, how could you part with such a high class hunk of soul, it should have been a LEVI 501 advert backing track? I think so Dave

:hatsoff2:HI ALL YOU CAN CALL THIS A 70S RECORD, CROSSOVER, MODERN, BUT TO ME IT WILL ALWAYS BE NORTHER SOUL, This record would be in my personal 100 favorite records of all time, and I do mean all records, like Lou Pride that was played in the 1st 2 years at WI GAN CASINO, it will always sound crisp to my ears, in fact played side by side they go together nicely, I have only read the question and not the thread so I endorse all the positives about this great record 100% the copy I have scanned and is an original issue from soul bowl, the Boots were from SIMON and a young DJ, on the scene played it at any opportunity, i ain't complaining, the boots have that tell tale dented label which is so annoying if you have just started to collect northern soul as many CASINO goers got this one, and for a few years nobody cared as such as many people assumed it was a legits copy, every real one i have had also sold at the bootleg price for years, however, the original is getting hard to locate and the price is about £20 even more certainly rarer han it's selling price, there is a white demo and a great LP to locate, and I would say if you see the DEMO BUY IT don't be a mug and leave it "You Had Better Keep It" DAVE KIL Right I have read the thread , real 1st Issue plastic sharp edge scratched in matrix # HM-6576-A (AT 6O-CLOCK, AT 3O-CLOCK IS A SQUARE BOX WITH THE LETTERS TLC WRITTEN INSIDE,,, MY COPY HAS THE WORDS BUBBLING UNDER ,AT 1O-CLOCK, THE VINYL IS SOLID NOT SEE THROUGH AS DESCRIBED, IF YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE PLASTIC IT WAS COMMON IN THE UK TO PRESS THAT TYPE OF PLASTIC ANY PYE RECORD IS RED BLUE GREEN, AS THERE WAS A OIL STRIKE ON THAT YEAR, I CANT SEE OUR YANK COZENS BEING BOTHERED BACK THEN. I ALSO THINK THE BOOTLEGS HAVE A MATRIX SYMBOL OF A 0 WITH MR INSIDE? DAVE

HI DAVE ..I JUST CAN'T THINK OF THE OTHER GIRLS NAME?? IT WAS CHRISSIE, OR CHRISTINE, SOME THING LIKE THAT, THE NAME CHRISSY GREY IS ALSO IN MY HEAD, BUT I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER, SO LONG AGO, IT REALLY GETS TO ME THAT I DID NOT GO TO THE BIRDS NEST, AS YOUR FRIENDSHIPS WITH THOSE YOU NAMED AND ALL THAT YOU DID NOT NAME, BUT WERE PATRONS AT THAT TIME HAVE ALL HAD A IMPACT ON ME AS YOU SAY JUST KNOWING THEM IS A SOULFUL TRIBUTE IN IT'S OWN RIGHT, I ALSO ONLY WENT TO THE SHADES CLUB 3 TIMES THAT ALSO HAD A GREAT VIBE WITH IT'S PATRONS, I HOPE YOU ARE MUCH BETTER NOW? BT THE WAY, DAVE KIL

HI ALL Great label, i had no real interest in most of the records initially, it was when PETE SMITH did that article in his BEATIN RHYTHM MAG, that i went on a mission to complete, till this day i am still 4 missing, not because i could not locate them, i just never got them, a loss of Passion?? these 2 i got given to me by MICK SMITH, they have "RICHARDS COPY" scratched into dead run off area, I have put them up on this site when I first joined DAVE

HI ALL .... I KNOW ,,, it's "STUBBORN HART" BY THE UK SHEPARD'S - STRIKE. IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, STRIKE IS THE MOST LIKELY LABEL? THE SHEPARD'S THE ARTIST, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW. THATS MY GUESS "YOU JUST DON'T KNOW" - SHEPARD'S - STRIKE,??? WOULD MICK SMITH WANT IT, JOHN, OR HAS HE GOT IT??? DAVE

HI RANKING JOHNNY BOY, FIRST, WHY TOOT AND COME IN, KNOCK ON THE DOOR,? i RECKON IT'S A PAMA ISSUE OF THE VOLUMES OR SOMETHING THAT SO RARE IT'S COME OUT ON WAND LIKE THE IVORY'S AND THE HUMPHREY STOMP DID,? BUT IT COULD BE THE NIGHT Inst OR Diane brooks IN MY HEART , BACKING WITH JUST THE BACKING GIRLS ON?? MICK HAS THAT, ROCKY ROBERTS UK ISSUE, YOU BEEN CHEATING Inst, MY MONEY IS ANOTHER FRANK WILSON??? DAVE K

Hi All It's a awful feeling, like no other, and can make you quite ill, Don't blame yourself as that just makes the situation worse, with all loss issues try and accept the fact that they have gone, And although it's horrible they can all be replaced, in time, As recommended do a list, and phone the local second hand record shops as you never no and most shops are pretty upfront these days, also can you contact the Taxi firm and state that you want to speak to the driver, to locate who and where his next pick up and drop off was, the Old Bill can do this for you as by law a cab has to keep a log, so the you can check the local area shops. Good Luck and make that list. if not for Soul Source you can Email it to all the record shops, it could just pay dividends for you! DAVE KIL

Hi All heres one that was recorded live at Blackpool Mecca, quite sort after by film buffs as it includes the Willie Mitchell track that was played in GET CARTER, the last sleave is not real but that is me with no color? Dave

Hi All ..I totally agree with you statement, I did put a few lists up last year, if any one wants me to put a few more to get a flavor of what it was like to receive them, the rare northern section, is must reading, and shows what was big back then may be a cheap sound today and visa versa. Some of my favorite records come from John, and he was the main source of my 1 st collection, as i said before £1.75 for Nolan Chance demo in 1975 now £200+, I think it was on Thursdays that I would phone Kings Lynn. if only I had more knowledge back then rather than being influenced by records played at WIgan? I missed out on some super rare soul, but I have no regrets with what I did Get, my 2 favs were the Lovemasters Pushin & Pullin & Joshia Jo Amstead, Iv'e got the Vibes both were front page 85p recommendations from John, DAVE KIL

HI You are so right, but what a brilliant poster it would have been if it had off been, if get my drift I should get it copied, DAVE

HI ALL This is a nice record, by the three sounds, nice steady mid tempo on the 4s beat, reminds me of a Ramsey Lewis type of inst, a bit jazzy with some blues and soul, 1 to look out for, should only cost £2 - 3 but worth More on it's own Merritt and rarity DAVE

HI I WAS ALWAYS TO STONED AT YATE? HAVE GOOD MEMORIES, BUT ALAS UNPRINTABLE, THIS IS THE ONLY POSTER I HAVE, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW DAMAGED AND FRAIL IT HAS BECOME, HENCE THE GLASS FRAME, AS POSTERS GO, THIS IS A RARE ONE, AND THE ARTWORK IS ACE, EVEN IN THIS CONDITION IT'S £50+ EASY, IAN WOULD LIKE IT I'M SURE, JUST A SHAME IT 'S NOT GOT ALL-NIGHTER ON IT? IF IT IS OF USE PM ME AND WE WILL DO A BETTER COPY. DAVE

HI TED What a great time for buying records the 80s was, all the big early hits from the TORCH and WIGAN were so cheap and even cheaper than todays bootlegs, in them days, even the record dealers did not sell bootlegs, every box you picked up had a bargain, how i wish i had 1/5th of my US collection back now, but alas it's a impossible dream my mate, still Mick never got his mitts on your collection did he? Dave THE EGOTISTIC APPARENTLY???

Hi all may I tak the LIBERTY to show these DAVE

Hi I was once told way back at Wigan, to be a top dancer, you should be able to use your feet, to dance to UPTIGHT Jackie Wilson & Count Basie Band, I think it a great test of how good or bad a dancer is? what say you?? DAVE

HI ALL, DID NOT GET MUCH RESPONSE TO THE SWAPPING ADD, SO I WILL TAKE OFFERS OM THE RECORDS IN THE ADD, ALSO I HAVE A FEW SALE ITEMS, FOR COLLECTORS:- 1. TIMEBOX - I'LL ALWAYS LOVE YOU, - PYLE ACETATE DEC 66 VG ++ RARE UK SOUL - £50 SOLD 2.GENO WASHINGTON - WATER - PICCADILLY VG+ - £10 (GENO'S 1st RECORD). SOLD 3. BOB RELF - BLOWING MY MIND / GIRL YOU MY KIND OF WONDERFUL (STAFFORD BIGGIE) 2nd Press stamped matrix, £10 SOLD 4. LONNIE MACK - DOWN IN THE DUMPS / MEMPHIS (CLASSIC MOD inst) - FRATERNITY VG++ - £15 5. DEE EDWARDS - HE TOLD ME LIE'S - D TOWN 1024 -VG++ £35 6, DERRICK HARRIOTT - TOGETHER / MAMA DIDNT LIE - ISLAND 245 MINT - (2 GREAT SIDES, TOGETHER IS MY FAVE) £130 TRADED/SOLD MORE TO FOLLOW, PP £2, TITLES WILL BE ON EBAY TOMORROW, SO DON'T MISS OUT TODAY DAVE THE CLUTCH