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A few cheaper modern bits. Condition: NM - probably unplayed Ex - Nice disc small signs of use VG - some surface marks maybe slight noise, no deep scratches or gouges or label damage. Post 1.50 first, 2.50 recorded 5.00 worldwide and Paypal as F&F or add 4% fees if that's preferred. Ferry Bros - Till Morning Comes - Dawnsongltd Ex £30 ( £75 on dealer lists) The Pips - If I could bring back yesterday - Casablanca NM £15 (Tim Brown recommendation) Bill Jacocks - You are the one - Maggio Ex £15 (nice double side listed on dealers at £40) Odia Coates and Paul Anka - Make it up to me in love - Epic NM £10 (uptempo duo version see YT link below) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rXc3aDpgY Mike & Bill - somebody's got to go - moving up VG+ £10 Esquires - The fish / my lady - Lasco NM £5 (boogie with sweet flip) Loletta Holloway - I know where your coming from - Aware DJ NM £5 Bernie Milton & Soul patrol - 60/40 - Chatmon Ex £40 ( £100 on dealer list ) PM any questions or queries ATB Andy

A bit of research last night and it seems that the Miracles third LP was released in 1962 but most of the songs had been used already on 45's. Motown weren't keen on 'Mother' as a 45 and felt the new tracks didn't sound like the Miracles. So the solution was to go back to 'Way over there' which flopped on its 1960 release and back it with 'Mother'. However as you say #94 was its best place in the chart. The initial mix of 'mother' wasn't great and Motown decided to pull the 45 and remix and reissue, hence the 06 and 09 records. Another source suggests that as Motown grew worldwide and Smokey Robinson's individual popularity had increased towards the later 60's Motown tried to capitalise again by reissuing some of the earlier 45's. No firm evidence on that just speculation.

Yes looks like ARP but a bit mashed. Can we confirm repress ? If so why would Motown repress ?

Put this in the wrong thread.... Thread in 2014 in Wants about the variants for this 45 Ok so I know this thread goes back some time but looking through the boxes I got a little curious about this. I've looked at Popsike and Google in general and I don't seem to see this label variant (see scan). It has 2 stamps in the run out groove - one is "Nashville Matrix" and the other I cant make out as its smaller (you might be able to make this out if you can enlarge - bottom left to the left of the Nashville matrix). The DM025209 is scratched in the run out also with a small "10" about 1 cm to the right. Way over there is the flip BTW. If any of you Motown aficionados can provide some info, that would be great. Cheers Andy

Ok so I know this thread goes back some time but looking through the boxes I got a little curious about this. I've looked at Popsike and Google in general and I don't seem to see this label variant (see scan). It has 2 stamps in the run out groove - one is "Nashville Matrix" and the other I cant make out as its smaller (you might be able to make this out if you can enlarge - bottom left to the left of the Nashville matrix). The DM025209 is scratched in the run out also with a small "10" about 1 cm to the right. Way over there is the flip BTW. If any of you Motown aficionados can provide some info, that would be great. Cheers Andy

Len 25 years ago I found a Mel Britt I thought had been lost or stolen stuck inside an LP cover alongside the LP itself. For years I had dark thoughts and suspicions about its fate, but there it was in the LP cover. To this day I still do not know it got there, as I certainly would not have put it there, and finding it was pure chance as I was about to sell some albums. You probably have it somewhere, but that pesky vinyl ghost has moved it 😨

for your consideration.... The Jaguars - The metropolitan - Alco VG £100 (sounds great booming out in a venue) label has a couple of watermarks (see scan) and vinyl has many hairlines but no scratches, gouges or surface noise. Plays well above the grade listed. Hear it on JM's site at £250 https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/55486-the-metropolitan-wanda-why.html Post 1.50 first, 2.50 recorded, 5.00 worldwide Paypal as F&F or plus 4%. Questions or to order please PM Cheers Andy

Out of stock already

I was told 500. Not sure if this is true but came from someone reliable, so I've no reason to doubt it.

I think it is a fairly limited release and as its been all over social media and advertised by dealers, there is probably little chance of getting one immediately. However some will come to the market in the short term I'm sure, like most of the other limited releases do.

A couple of rarer reissues for consideration... 1. Casanova Two - We got to keep on - Early Bird WLP Ex- £25 (70's pressing of this in demand tune) 2. Percy Wiggins - That's loving you - Abet M- £20 (legal reissue by the Abet label to meet demand years ago) Post is 1.50 UK First, 2.50 Recorded and 5 UKP Worldwide Paypal as F&F or add 4% fees if you prefer PM with questions / to order ATB Andy

OK folks just a few for today. Open to sensible offers if interested. Ella Washington - Bye Bye Baby / Grass is always greener - Octavia Ex- £50 (local Miami release before Atlantic) Eddie Simpson - Got to keep on Believing - Mamie Ex+ £50 (on dealers at 100) Bobby Joy - You sweet devil - TRC Ex £45 (On recent playlists) Mel Vena Allen - The bigger your heart - Salvador DJ Ex+ £40 (on dealers at 100) Questions / orders please PM Post 1.50 First, 2.50 Recorded and £5 worldwide std airmail. ATB Andy

Beautiful copy out of an old record store I'd grade at Ex+ but probably unplayed....... £30 P&P 1.50 first, 2.50 Recorded Paypal as F&F Please ATB Andy

Hi Dave. Sorry its sold quickly. ATB Andy

Beautiful copy out of an old record store........ £50 P&P 1.50 first, 2.50 Recorded Paypal as F&F Please ATB Andy

Different mixes. For me the Ronn mix is better.

Grahame Don't despair or give up. The 150 sounds you know are just a tiny fraction of what's out there. As others have said trawl through Youtube and follow the recommendations and you will here a whole range of sounds that now constitute the rare soul scene - northern, modern, crossover, sweet group etc. Look on the dealer sites and play their sound files. As with any of us there will be tunes you like and others not, but I assure you there are thousands of tunes waiting for you. As for venues, DJ's, exclusivity, CD's, mp3's etc. that's a bit of a political minefield, but suffice to say (with tin hat firmly on) that CD's and mp3's at a venue are a bit of a no no. There are plenty of venues which still play towards the oldies scene with the classic sounds of yesteryear, and maybe this is the place to start for you. Look out for something advertised as 'Northern Soul & Motown Night' and I'm sure you will hear some of your faves and see a packed dance floor. Record collecting need not be an expensive pastime as there are plenty of 5 quid records that will tickle your fancy. But I would say come and join the scene with an open mind and listen to everything it has to offer.👍 Andy

OK folks back to the stuff that's been coming out of the basement in the US which was the stock of an record store which closed 25 years ago. I'm going to grade all as NM but I think most will be unplayed. Where I don't think it is I'll indicate UK grade - ususally Ex - Ex+. P&P is 2.50 UK recorded ( just to make sure as its Crimbo) and 5.00 worldwide. You will find sound files on Youtube 1. The Falcons - I'm a fool - Big Wheel £50 (probably the best copy I've had label and vinyl) 2. The Shirelles - Wait till I give the signal - £35 ( in its 'birth sleeve' as the current BS goes) 3. Otis Leavill - Why Why Why / Glad I met you - Dakar WLP £40 ( both sides great xover) 4. Marva Whitney - Ball of fire - King £25 ( classic xover in its original sleeve) 5. Loleatta Holloway - I know where your coming from - Aware WLP £10 ( classic xover) 6. Earl Duke Jenkins & Roulettes - Misusin' me - BEE £15 (R&B, nice deep flip if I remember) 7. Denise Chandler - Yes I'm ready / You've hurt me now - LOCK £20 ( both sides nice with a bit of low rider action) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUVzdgIpiHo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pZHjVGQqUo 8. Diplomats - I've got the kind of love - Dynamo £25 ( superb group soul and often over looked) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl7HNaZ6_XI +++++++++++++++++++++++++ UK Graded 9. Mel Vena Allen - The bigger your heart - Salvadore Ex DJ £35 (on JM its £100 so dip your bread) 10. Dynamics - I wanna know - Big Top WLP Ex+ £75 ( two XoL but half dealer price). 11. Jades - Ain't it funny what love can do - Capitol Green DJ Ex+ £15 That's it for today folks Questions or orders please PM. Andy

Some nice crossover tracks for your delectation. Sounds are just from YT for reference. Might be open to offers or trades. PM any questions queries etc. Paypal as F&F please UK post: 1.50 first, 2.50 recorded, 5.00 worldwide PM for questions and to reserve Timothy Wilson - Loving You / Pigtails - Buddah Ex+ £30 (his best for me with good NS flip) Loving You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpYQSqjjOAQ Pigtails https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3gdIECrpdQ Otis Leavill - Why Why Why / Glad I met you - Dakar WLP Ex+ £50 ( great double sided 45) Why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f23NRremf3s Glad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUtEIe4FoN8 Johnny Adams - You're a bad habit - SSS VG++ £40 ( just hairlines and light marks so graded lower) Bad habit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdRUjHU4oVE Rob Galbraith - Just be you (short) / (Long) - RCA DJ M- £25 (breezy catchy crossover) Just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09CN3dFo1wI Bernie Milton & Soul Patrol - 60/40 - Chatmon Ex £50 (half the price of dealers) ATB Andy

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Hi For sale is a 45 I know nothing about except that it seems very rare and the last copy sold I could find went for $735 on Ebay and many people have it as a 'want' on Discogs. Is this Richard Marks or a different artist i.e Richard Mark ? https://www.popsike.com/DeepModern-Soul-45-Richard-Marks-I-Cant-Stand-Midtown-mp3-rare/201374680789.html Richard Marks - Pretty Woman / I can't stand (being alone without you) - Midtown VG++ £600 (or offers around ) Top side is a modern boogie dancer with a lovely ballad deep flip. Labels are clean, no writing, rips etc ( see scans). Both sides of the vinyl have some radial surface marks which do not affect play, but the vinyl is bright and shiny otherwise. PM with any questions queries etc. I'll leave it up for a week or so then put it on Discogs if no interest to anyone. Postage would be as Special delivery at around £8, and worldwide would be sent Airsure or other tracked and traced method (please contact me if overseas). As always full refund available. Cheers Andy Edit: I've now had it confirmed that this is definitely Richard Marks of Tuska et al fame. Must be a label misspelling.

I'm not disagreeing Chalky, people who have always liked the more upfront side will know many of them but we don't know them all, and of course other genre's of soul music have become accepted e.g. group soul harmony. I can guarantee I hear something or several things I don't know or have only heard infrequently. If you are saying that this is equivalent to an oldies top 50 bash, slipping on talc and having your shins whipped by 40" baggy bottoms during a spin, then I think its a negative view. Anyway here's a picture of me, Mick Brown and Franc Giacobbe on the way to Groovin in Derby a few weeks back. Francs the good looking one keeping his hand on the talc in his pocket. Andy Mac

Chalky once again I agree with 90% of what you state. However we are 30/40 years on from when new sounds were discovered regularly, so it wont be the same now as it was then, it never can be. I mentioned two venues above and I don't know if you have attended either, but will you hear something 'known' - yes of course, but you will also hear a spread and range of musical styles that present something different. Its more of a mix like the Euro scene and my experience has been these venues are well supported as are others I have attended. Andy

Thanks to all for the advice Andy

I would agree in the most Chalks, but there are still venues that do something different. I find the Sunday venues are the best in terms of "something different". There are a number around the midlands and could recommend the likes of Groovin @ The Tavern in Derby and Feed Your Soul in Newark are just two of them. Other Sunday soul brands are available 😉 At the last 'Groovin' there was everything from group harmony/sweet soul, modern, crossover and NS with the odd soulful Reggae track thrown in for good measure. Andy