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You have taken your eye of the ball a little I think mate, Asda's have been selling soul T-Shirts for years and every market in the North of England has had Keep The Faith t-shirts and Northern Soul coasters for a number of years, surely you have been at Prestatyn weekender at least once in last decade and seen the Northen Soul knickers etc. Last time this scene was underground Shane Meadows was not even conceiving his first short. So you cannot really blame this film for any part in the commercialisation of anything surely. And using the analogy of Shane Meadows, what is exactly the difference here, why don't you assume this film will have the same integrity as you obviously think, and I agree, his filmaking has. If the film is telling the story correctly why does that equal commercialisation, I think our beautiful thing needs recorded properly and using it as a centerpiece for a drama, done well works for me. To be honest you are starting to contradict yourself. I don't know why you keep going on about the dancers and the scene, they are performers training for a role, probably dreaming of being famous because of this film, is that a major crime for ambitous kids. I wonder if BalletDancerSource.Co had huge derogotary threads about Natalie Portman over last couple of years or not, debating was she good for the future of the scene or not. Personally whether they are into "it" or not is incidental in this process for me, the fact that some of them are actually going to soul nights is great from the point of improving the view for us old gits, but of little other importance to me. One thing I will say on this, is I went along to one of their dance classes because I was in London and some of them got it, particularly one lad, and really got it as much as many people I see on the scene(s) the few times I have gone out in recent days. Whether he was just a great actor or really did is surely incidental for someone being trained to add authenticity to a film! It would be good if you did this intro Mike asked, and gave some details of your Northern perspective and exactly why you got into and where etc., might be easier for people to understand your point of view and why this is so important to you. Trust me it is important to me too, I would love a great film to be made including this subject. As I said before, lets not forget Elaine is someone very talented at what she does, and is an active member of scene and has a personal passion for it as much as you and I , and in fact more than I do these days, so has a head start surely.

Can't be, it says boys, they were boys in the 60's were they not, allegedly!

Ken you can read as well as I can mate, and the website I think outlines the film pretty well and gives me a good flavour on what it is about, read that and you will be as well informed as I am. My response for above was to answer the previous posters comment about it having no story, I would say based on the lines from the website I have taken, it certainly does appear to have a story in it.

That says it all, a giant of a legend. RIP

Not sure what you mean here, the lines below are a direct lift from the link Mike put up and would suggest a fairly obvious narrative structure, I think it makes sense of the choice of name also and explains it is not a one dimensional name. Not sure what you mean about Casino either, lots of films are about specific points in time, as was Quadrophenia, and thats a good example, I was very anti-mod at that time but loved the film, as it was about people like me! I think most film makers make films because they have a story to tell and this one looks exactly that,the major difficutly about projects like this is we are a bunch of moaning b****rds that expect everything to be of Scorsese like perfection and it to be exactly as we remember it one specifically special night in June 1973, which is quite a challenge really. I do agree it should be judged on how good a film it is, which covers a multitude of sins, not on its documentary relevance, they are completely different scenarios. You do seem to have a bee in your bonnet on this one mate, bringing you out of lurking, but all I can say, same as I said when Soulboy was first mentioned, surely a good film about our time can't be a bad thing can it? ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************** The film will tell the tale of two Northern boys whose worlds are changed forever when they discover black American soul music. Rejecting their small town existence working the production line, they dream of going to America in search of the super-rare records that will help them to become the best DJ's on the British soul scene.

Oops Mr Byrne, snap, except you were more eloquent than me as ever. Hope you are well.

While I completely agree with your statement re SoulBoy, I am fairly confident this won't be as bad. Everyone seems to think that film got flack for its NS connections but in reality it was poorly written, poorly researched and poorly put together, which was its downfall, not its trouser length etc. Elaine has been on scene all her life and therefore, is doing this from the inside literally, so that surely gives it a head start on any others, and that surely means it can't be called just cashing in. While I know little on that side of things, I suspect very few people make a specialist film to get rich, given the time energy and personal cost in just getting something like this off the ground. From what I can see she is dedicated to making a film about something she loves, a pretty good start I would have thought. I am not sure about your first comment either, and the connection, it is a film not an all nighter, so surely it should be judged on how well it does things like any other films, so if it stirs our emotions and memories, and makes us feel like we are back in the time, that means it is a good film. I think like all films it can only be a celluloid representation, so therefore detail attention etc do matter, and I think from what you see here Elaine is investing heavily in that on top of her own lifelong involvement. Like I said about SoulBoy when it was at this stage, it will be great to have a film that represents that time well and shows just how exciting it was. SoulBoy didn't but am very hopefull this will.

Gutted, I loved this duo as many people will remember me boring them over the years with this, featured on front page of my one off fanzine back in 84. He was probably not as prominent as Valerie but boy could he sing. Their concert at Birmingham a couple of years back was as good as any I have seen, Nick was as good as I have heard vocally and together they were perfections. Just gutted, RIP beautiful man

A proper genuis, that transcended scenes, rightly so. He made history, what more can you say. RIP xxxx

I forgot about this, thanks for the tips about Roger on ebay,. used to buy all my Kent off him via his website so glad to see he is still there, yes a bit dearer than Amazon but worth it to kepp the source going and for the great service. Oh yes, the CD, f*****g amazing, sorry for offending all those faint hurts on SS who don't run free and are obviously offended by swearing, but sometimes the end justifies the means...... Only listened to it twice as most of my listening in car or while under the influence of my latest gin injection, this deserves a darkened room, an expensive brandy, no computer or TV, just me and Candi,getting down and dirty, Genuinely the CD of the century. I love it. Back with more after my session with Candi One confession, I had previously missed her version of Blackmail, couldn't believe it was on one of the LP's I had, great version and was straight on decks for EMS weekender, sounding amazing!

A very talented man and very varied output. Another one gone too soon. R.I.P.

Missed last nights show as on early flight this morning, still thinking of his music, can't load any music files at moment, which I will when back but these 2 articles for me give a great balanced view of this genuinely great, if obviously flawed, giant of a man. https://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jun/19/gil-scott-heron-saved-me One of the many articles the Guardian produced on him, proving that when it puts it mind to it, rarely as that is these days, it can be a genuinely great paper https://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/gil-scott-herons-scornful-brilliance.html I pinched this of Stuart Cosgroves facebook, particularly fitting as Stuarts article for Echoes all those years ago introduced us to GSH, a very thoughtful and thought provoking article, I obviously never knew GSH but I really miss him as irrational as that obviously is......

Not keen on the wave of you tube clips, unless they are doing something different or special, and this certainly is, Not great quality clip but good enough to have the hairs on the soul of my feet standing to attention. Fantastic memories of balmy night in Stoke, one of the greatest ever.

And saving the best for last, having raided the archives, will go and record some more this week. This is probably more played out than any of the FW's or AW's but it still stops me in my tracks, memories of a golden time when it was all so much simpler and records like this were shattering my parameters of taste wide open.... Just one of the greatest 70's dancers ever (even though it was recorded in 1980 ). Sometimes its easy to forget that the reasons some things are overplayed is because they were so damn good in the first place. Ta I want a ski jumper again.. Dells - Your Song - Soul-tbc

Not their very best, which is not necessary an insult with this band, but a very happy sing along, played at right time in right dance floor just hits the spot, for me anyway. Dells - Don't Trick Metreat Me - Lp ?

Probably adopted by too many as thinking mans record to play (by too many who weren't really thinking) but it still sends shivers, just absolutely wonderful. Dance hall perfection. Dells Make Sure, oh for a miners welfare in Allanton somewhere, someday.... Dells - Ztbc - Soul-tbc

Cmon boys, these are already on here. Good shout Mr J, I think this is one of the first records I ever bought, sure heard it from Dave Evison at Clouds and couldn't believe it was £1.50 or something like that. Still sounds absolutely thrilling. Dells - Run For Cover - Soul-tbc

Good shout from the 2 Mr B's, special kudos to Mr Benson for the scan of this and that WD, never seen Inspiration on that label, just the one sided blue copy, whatever label on its stimulant in disguise as vinyl, absolute woosh of a sound. Sure it was one of the very many Ady Harley tips Dells - Inspiration - Cadet

Another of his rants that so sounded like great songs, you can see why he always thought of himself as a writer first and foremost, but boy he made some great music Gil Scott Heron - We Almost Lost Detroit - Arista

Back to the most imporant thing, the music of this great artist, have still been listening constantly to his music this week and thinking wow, what a paradox of a man obviously. Gil Scott Heron - Waiting For The Axe To Fall - Arista Doing his thing, maybe his lack of ability to solve the problems he was obviously passionate made him the man he was, who knows, pure speculation on my part, but certainly he knew how to say it properly but always retain the musical integrity.

You're right it wasn't the moment. For once stop trying to make it all about you, frankly you are boring and not fit to place yourself in the same place as Mr Scott-Heron, And no he wouldn't thank you. He would just recognise you as another incoherent rambler he spent too much of his life around, And do the decent thing, don't respond and spoil this thread, delete this if you are any sort of man rather then the egotistical clot you come across on here as.

Am I the only one in the world still not got this, why are Amazon still showing as pending if you lot all have your grubby paws on it It says released tomorrow, if I don't get it within 2 hours of ordering, I will hold Mr Rounce and Mr Croasdell personally responsible for my mental distress. I have not had this level of anticipation causing such an aural erection for many a year. And havent even bothered guffawing out loudly at the comment on why is her Northern biggie on this, just unbelievable! CMON Kent, I need it.

You either need to set it up as a new file here Use the post clip and then go through the motions, that or if it is already on use the embed button in top right corner and then copy and paste the code that starts with rs Not as easy as it used to be, but still worth it for the pleasure of sharing the Dells.

Okay last one for me or I will be working to midnight and beyond, put this on while ago, from one of my favourite LP's, and memories of great days spent in company of the man who made me buy this LP, Dave Molloy, eternally grateful for this and many other things to Mr M, And this song probably proves the old adage, they could sing the phonebook..... And lets not forget some of the great arrangements on this period, get the headphones on and listen to the percussion all the way through this perfection, that and the most soulful whistling ever committed to vinyl, fu*k me what more could you want Dells - Trains Boats And Planes - Cadet

Your wish is my command Mr Cane, you just need to create a new file in the refosoul single file and then embed it here, bit of a faffle but not to bad, Anyway back the to aural satisfaction that only the Dells can provide, its a suck and a blow at the same time when he lets go on this Dells - Do What You Gotta Do - Mercury