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Inspirational. Ed

It's widely acknowledged that after listening to someone for 5 minutes who has a monotone voice, you stop taking any notice. I'm feeling that with this latest soulful house track At 3 minutes I put the kettle on... Thank the Lord 12“ versions are not compulsory. Ed

When the Jazz Funkers invaded around 78, with their Charles Earland and Players association etc, they wanted to be NOT tagged as a new or modern Northern Soul direction style. And it never did. It is what it is. I'm not sure lovers of Bahia or Ashley Beedle want to associate themselves as an extension of Northern Soul either. Now if you say to an average big time promoter playing tracks like these two will put 50 more bums on seats, they will make it happen. I think anything made before 63 and after 80 allowing for a few rare exceptions compared to the 1000s included in this time frame are not widely acknowledged as Northern Soul. Seems to me like desperation for new material gives licence to the tags of ' the roots of Northern Soul ' or perhaps the ' Future of Northern Soul'.... It's just stretching the description too much. Ed

I'd expect to hear a record like this at a Sunday afternoon chill out session or on a Radio one soul show, etc. Don't know much about 'up front ' events, but maybe there? However I am super impressed if a track like this followed something like Jimmy Mack's My World is on fire, and the dance floor did not ease up and just changed dance styles. Is this the case? Or is it pushing the hugely broad description of Northern Soul? Ed

From last year, but did this get any plays out on the main floor? Ed

105 now. Yes yes yes Brilliant. Ed

Top quality. Thanks for sharing. Ed

Interesting.. I like the way some of the dancers have got into the swing of it with the Latin / salsa movement. Not a shred of soul in though. Would this be Northern Salsa:) Heard a few similar tunes at the 100 club a few years ago from a guest dj. My ignorance kicked in as they all sounded the same to my cloth ears. Still, it's better than ska and rock n roll that are also across the very wide board. Ed

Nice track. I likes a bit of Gospel I do! However a 15 year old record just getting spins? How modern is modern? It would have been a push at Wigan to play much 15 years old! Modern is either recent releases... Or modern sounding danceable soul with the same kind of beat etc as this track, emanating from perhaps 1980 onwards. But I find it hard to say it means both. Ed

I think the point is that one person dislikes a tune and another loves it... Just interesting to see what gets mentioned. Ed

I agree. This topic should be split into two. Records that you didn't rate when they were first played, and records that you can't stand now, even if you were ok with them when they first got played. I was about 14 when I first heard under my thumb. It was a huge record in its day, and yes retrospectively....its dated now, but nostalgically it still deserves credit. It's been mentioned before but Tim Tam did split the crowd right down the middle around 78 as I recall. Ed

So Stevie Would you say that true modern is perhaps a scene on its own and has passed the point of being included in the Northern Soul spectrum at least until it's a few years old? Ed

I guess the concensus is if it sounds soulful to you, and you can dance to it, then it can well be Northern Soul. It's flexible on soulfullness but not so much danceability.. However you cant shuffle to afternoon of the rhino anymore than you can stomp to house for sale. Modern generally follows the soulful disco style and the dance style that goes with it. So I would agree it can all be Northern Soul to some even if it's soulful disco or r n b to others. Modern clearly should really just be a tag for current and recent releases. Ed

The girl can sing.. Just up my street, almost screaming. Shame no other stuff by her seems to have surfaced, like so many of our one hit wonders. Ed

It's like sugar, so sweet Good enough to eat When I feel the funk, I give in Get up on a-yo' feet… Nice 2019 release.. modern indeed. Ed

Exactly Ed

Well I went to Snaith and it's true new releases like those mentioned and imperials, Roy Dawson, etc were the main event. I also went to Clifton Hall, before and during the revolution... But, that's yonks ago now and those records are hardly modern today! Ed

I would say this is an example as modern as I understand modern...and it's still old! Shows what I know.. Ed

I think, as suggested earlier, the modern should be used for new music, but not new retro music. Of course the Carstairs is more ' modern ' than Jack Montgomery, but it's 46 years old now, so cannot really be classed as modern. The 60s soul, 70s soul, 80s soul, might be a better sub title if still classed as Northern Soul. I still remember the term Northern Soul being despised actually, and totally frowned upon wearing a badge with it on! How times change. Ed

Hi Roburt, it may be a recent release, and a dam good one, but is it so different in style to those late 80s and possibly early 90s tunes. Are there for example any 'Northern Soul' nights that only play new releases like this? I remember venues like Canal Tavern in Thorne tried to mainly play newer sounds. Here is another great tune of the same ilk. Ed

I'd agree with all that and expanding on the last point.....in the mid 60s as motown was banging out its dance records it would have been modern compared to the early 60s R n B. Style. Then as the Carstairs was filling the floor, a different modern sound emerged. I don't want to say disco... but maybe soulful disco. By the late 70s the jazz funk was infiltrating play lists. Freddie Jackson and Alexander O'Neal brought in a different style by the 80's But in the last 30 years I don't see any significant change in beat or style, just replication of what's been before. So either modern is used to describe new releases or it simply describes the latter style from the 80s in terms of what was played and accepted as Northern Soul. Ed

Is there a 2019 style of music that's added on to the established styles from the 60s 70s 80s Or sounds that just fit those styles but are newly made? It's not a trick question, is just in my view, modern is at best mid 80s which is further back from now to the start point. Hence what is actually ' modern'. Ed

So we had R&B, then the motown funk brothers style, a bit of stax and Atlantic, then the Carstairs and co... Alfie Davidson and the Futures etc. And obviously everything in between. BUT by 1980 all this was covered and some. 17 years of musical evolution. Now almost 40 years AFTER this, what exactly is modern? Please name examples over the last year or so that are different to pre 1980! If folks who love the 60s are in a bubble, the Mecca lovers can't be much different. What's new and 'kind of accepted ' as Northern Soul today? I don't mean newly discovered master tapes etc from before 1980. Ed

When did you send the wants list? Odd session musician hogging such rarities? Even Gwent Owen did not keep copies of her stuff. You were a very lucky guy indeed. Ed

Yes, this, and Cal Tjader took over the decks for weeks. Could not get on the KGB dance floor if these two were being spun. Doubt the same reaction would happen today... Ed