Gilly

My thoughts on this topic 1 I wouldn't say the song wasn't written in 1967 and there may be a recording of it some where but what you hear from the 45 be it Karen or Moira or the acetate that was sold a few years ago doesn't come over to me as a 67 production more in keeping with a 69 production. If it turns out to be a proven fact that 67 was its recorded year then it was way ahead of its time. Compare other 67 releases from any other McLaughlin product or any other Detroit release from that year. Just a few of Popcorns 67 releases like Washed Ashore, GI Joe, I Spy. Maybe food for thought (that isn't a song btw)

If you listen to the Four Tops. Ask the Lonely. a Capello he croaks a word near the beginning

I spoke to Moira McLaughlin earlier She's a friend and a Facebook friend and asked her the question about the Karen release, she in turn said I will ask Ira McLaughlin (also a friend) and neither of them are aware that it even came out on anything other than Moira. She had a look at Soul Source btw and has read this thread. I will ask her to become a member if she isn't already, im sure the Forum would welcome her with open arms.

Spent an evening with Belita one time 1985 at Pat Lewis's house, also there were George Clinton and George McGregor and Sandra Richardson. Belita RIP dressed in tight leather clothing she looked the business, bless

Brill mate, ive touched on this subject of miss-truths on day one in my book, similar story to Reet-petite I guess.

the writers match up to be correct, but hey Don Davis put his name on lots of songs but unlikely he had a hand in most of them,

Gloria Jones at Prestatyn, she was trying to get the crowd singing because she couldn't, I thought your getting paid for this, im not you sing it

Ive got a couple. Trumpet break on Little Ritchie. Just another Heart. Also Carlena Weaver. Jealousy. Audel again the trumpet break and nearly all the Shrine stuff but that's why we like it, rough and ready

Slightly off topic but never the less interesting I have Ben Knights unreleased version of Candy, if you are Facebook friends of mine Richard Gilbert you can hear it on my main page in videos

Has that John Kondos and the Inspiration gone or been withdrawn

The Dee Dee label was part of the Al-Teen label which included Fahrenheit, Mee and Winner owned by W.A. Meeks

no, I meant by your Guardian article

I think a different person going by this

Would appear Bobby Robinson is Robert C Robinson Jr so you maybe right if the C stands for Clyde

don't know but what is interesting is the record #

There is another Valerie Lamar release. Dee Dee 113 "I don't Want Your Lovin"/ Shame. that must have been the song that fetches money £100+ Dave Thorley played it out. Quite interesting I think because when I heard Gotta Get Away (last year for the first time) I thought I must have missed something and it looks like a lot of people didn't know it. My first copy was given to me by Daz Holt, he having put it on a CD. My second copy belongs still to Andy Dyson but im going to fight him for it proper gypsy style with shirts off when the weather gets better, its a bit cold at the moment and there are travel restrictions.

maybe ive got confused over the other dee dee release being worth more than Valerie's release, for me it needs more investigation, but not tonight. Thanks for the conversation, be back tomorrow with answers I hope

dee dee

ray pettis

Sorry, didn't make myself clear on that,, I should have said another 45 on the same label that fetches a fair bit of money, sorryboutthat

Ive got two (neither for sale) ive used it recently on radio and small events (im not a DJ as it were) there is another on the label and that fetches I fair amount but I don't think its anywhere near as good

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thanks, I cant do likes today, used my quota up

Got one by a group called Try it Again (Baby) on Playboy Records #777

I take it they are white