Pete S

Yes I bid 75 quid on that and was the second bidder, I was going to sell it at 100 or 125 if spotless.

But sometimes that different opinion can be measured literally in a couple of hundred quid - so someone's got to be wrong surely?

Cheers for that Dave, nice to know people appreciated it. I would also recommend the Northern Soul Top 500 book, well if I had to choose one it would be that, I've never been able to resist looking at pics of record labels (which is why I started my own magazine all those years ago). I also like the Soul Harmony Singles book.

Nige you're quoting me not Mace. You can't ask a question like who sets the original price, it's determined by multiple factors, the most important being availability and demand. So a blue Ric Tic Detroit Emeralds record which is incredibly common and not in the slightest bit in demand will be priced very low because if you put £100 on it, it would be available forever. When you've been doing the same job for a long time you get to know the ins and outs of it, I've seen and had enough copies of particular records to know if they are rare or not, remember, we all used to do this without the aid of a price guide until a few years ago.

Well I for one don't like seeing (possibly) gullible people being shafted, that's why.

Prices seem to be dictated by auctions and are then followed by sheep-like sellers. Example, a common record like The Determinations "Bing Bong", worth maybe £40, sells on an auction to some misguided unknowledgable person for £150 or £200, so the greedy sellers then put all of their copies up to £150 not realising it only went that high because two people wanted it - and they were probably the only two people in the world prepared to pay that price. Kiki Dee £300, helen Shapiro £200, it's a f*cking joke. I'll stick in the real world and sell records for their real value, thats probably why I sell more than I get left with. If people are daft enough to pay the greedy sellers prices then more fool them.

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Have reduced a few things

Neil, thanks for my book and the lovely memorabilia that goes with it, spot on as it being a perfect christmas present, I actually read it all in one go, couldn't stop til I'd finished it.

God, "Bear dance" is f*cking dull isn't it?

Have you seen the prices people ask for this record? Up to £400. Real value is £250 for a WD and £400 for an issue. IT's not as if it's rare.

Deal done and dusted, thanks to all who expressed an interest

Can't sorry, not got the record here and only have it on tape...

I'd halve that, in fact I'd go further - £20, £25 tops on UK Island - and thats from someone who used to collect just UK Island.

Ted I remember you djing there one night in 1987 before we knew each other and you did one of the most fantastic spots I've ever heard, I taped it actually but the tape has long disappeared. I do remember you bollocking someone for booing when you played Joanie Sommers

No, simply in 1968 they phased out the white demos and replaced them with yellow and they stayed like that through the 70's and 80's.

PETE SMITH 14 MARKET LANE LOWER PENN WOLVERHAMPTON WV4 4UJ 01902 340255 07784 507360 Pete.smith@freeuk.com HI, I THOUGHT I MIGHT AS WELL TRY AND GET ONE MORE LIST OUT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, I HAVEN'T PUT TOO MANY EXPENSIVE ITEMS ON AS I KNOW HOW TIGHT MONEY IS AT THE MOMENT BUT ANYONE LOOKING TO BUY THEMSELVES A LATE CHRISTMAS PRESENT MIGHT FIND SOMETHING HERE, THERE'S SOME GOOD, SOLID RARE OLDIES ON THIS LIST. I'D ALSO LIKE TO WISH ALL MY CUSTOMERS OLD AND NEW A VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES, THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING ME THIS YEAR AND FOR THE LAST, WHAT, 10 OR 11 YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LIVING. STILL HANGING ON IN THERE! I CAN DESPATCH EVERY RECORD SOLD TODAY BY THE WAY. BEST WISHES PETE ALL US ORIGINALS ORTHEIA BARNES - TAKE MY HEART AND SOUL - CORAL ISSUE EX 40 SOLD THE COMBINATIONS - WHILE YOU WERE GONE - SOLID ROCK DJ EX 65 FAYE CRAWFORD - WHAT HAVE I DONE WRONG - RCA DEMO EX 130 What a stunning record this is, and so rare THE CADILLACS - FOOL - ARCTIC M- 50 THE DE VONS - SOMEONE TO TREAT ME THE WAY YOU USE TO - KING M 40 ANN D'ANDREA - DON'T STOP LOOKING - JAMIE EX 25 SOLD White/olive label, not the reissue JERRY FULLER - I GET CARRIED AWAY - CHALLENGE DEMO VG+ 30 Few crackles at the start otherwise fine WYNDER K FROG - GREEN DOOR - UNITED ARTISTS DEMO EX 35 SOLD Rare on US THE GEES - IT'S ALL OVER / LOVE IS A BEAUTIFUL THING - PORT M 40 SOLD Tremendous double sider DOUGLAS GIBSON - RUN FOR YOUR LIFE - TANGERINE DEMO EX 50 What a version this is, just as good as Harrison Brothers using the same backing track, produced by The Funk Brothers GAYLE HARRIS - I AIN'T GONNA LET IT GET ME DOWN - DCP DEMO M 30 Did you hear this on the beat ballads podcast recently? Says it's arranged an produced by Don Costa but it's 100% Teddy Randazzo WALTER JACKSON - WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE - OKEH DEMO M- 30 CHUCK JACKSON - HAND IT OVER - WAND EX 30 This is autographed on the label by Chuck Jackson! GLORIA JONES - HEARTBEAT - UPTOWN EX 20 LENA & THE DELTANETTS - TURN AROUND BABY - UPTOWN EX- 75 SOLD Few very light marks not affecting play. Great lesser known Wigan spin MAJOR LANCE - INVESTIGATE - OKEH EX 30 SOLD JIMMY MILLER - ON A BACK STREET - COUNTERPOINT M 40 Another nice beat ballad J.E. MORGAN - BY MY SIDE - THEODA EX 20 REGGIE MILNER - SHE'S ALRIGHT - RONS M 30 Now forgotten Stafford spin from Detroit - great vocal MARLINA MARS - I'M GONNA HOLD ON (TO YOUR LOVE) - MGM DEMO M 40 Absolutely belting 100mph Northern CHARLES MANN - IT'S ALL OVER - ABC EX 40 Never see this on this rare stock copy BARBARA MASON - BOBBY IS MY BABY - ARCTIC EX- 25 PORGY & THE MONARCHS - MY HEART CRIES FOR YOU / HEY GIRL - MUSICOR EX 40 The 70's mispress featuring the unreleased Hey Girl - brilliant dancer DEAN PARRISH - DETERMINATION - BOOM DEMO EX- 40 SOLD RAY PAIGE - AIN'T NO SOUL (LEFT IN THESE OLD SHOES) / DON'T STOP NOW - RCA DEMO M 40 Storming dancer and class beat ballad on this double sider THE RHYTHM RASCALS - WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO / GIRL BY MY SIDE - SONIC EX 30 Once again, a smart dancer and a haunting beat ballad - two really good sides DELLA REESE - A CLOCK THAT'S GOT NO HANDS - RCA M- 50 THE SPINNERS - I'LL ALWAYS LOVE YOU - MOTOWN EX 20 O.C. SMITH - DOUBLE LIFE - COLUMBIA DEMO M 20 THE SANDELLES - HIT N RUN LOVER - DEBONAIR VG+ 30 BOBBY STAR - TOGETHER - UNITED ARTISTS DEMO M 30 THE SHORT KUTS - YOUR EYES MAY SHINE - PEPPER M- 25 JERRY TIFFE - HEY WATCHA DOIN - SCEPTER EX 60 SOLD Ian Levine biggie from a few years back, tough stock copy THE TRADITIONS - MY LIFE WITH YOU - BARCLAY EX 100 SOLD Fantastic and bloomin' hard to find now ALVIN VALENTINE - SWEET SWEET REVENGE - BRUNSWICK EX 30 MILTON WRIGHT - THE GALLOP - CARLA DEMO M 50 Beautiful copy JEANETTE WILLIAMS - ALL OF A SUDDEN - BACK BEAT DEMO M 100 BILLY WATKINS - THE ICE MAN - ERA DEMO EX+ 60 JIMMY WISNER - CHOPPIN' AROUND - ATLANTIC DEMO EX 25 SOLD This is one of the all time great instrumentals but hardly anyone remembers it! Well that should be enough for today, got lots of nice things ready for future lists including: HEADLINES (LUAU), L. ALLEN (GREEN DOLPHIN), BILLY KENNEDY (THELMA), PATTY CHARLES (HOT), RONNIE & ROBYN (SIDRA), LINDA JONES (BLUE CAT), CHUBBY CHECKER (UK CAMEO PARKWAY) and so on THANKS FOR READING - HOPE YOU FIND SOMETHING OF INTEREST I TAKE CREDIT CARDS, PAYPAL (NO CHARGE TODAY payments to pete.smith@freeuk.com), CHEQUE, CASH, AND BANK TRANSFER. POSTAGE: ANYTHING UP TO 3 RECORDS 1.80 RECORDED DELIVERY. AFTER THAT, 20p EXTRA. SPECIAL DELIVERY IS 5.50 AND IS RECOMMENDED FOR ANYTHING OVER 50.00 - YOU ARE ONLY INSURED FOR 38.00 WITH RECORDED SO IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT YOU TAKE THE SPECIAL DELIVERY OPTION IF YOU BUY AN EXPENSIVE RECORD. OVERSEAS, SAME PRICE FOR STANDARD POSTAGE AND 6.00 FOR SPECIAL DELIVERY.

Yeah I know, I heard it, hence my post ?????

I'd say, and I'd have asked for it too except the grading is very vague, vg++ to M, whats that mean? I'd like to know accurately if it's VG+, VG++, EX, M-, that applies to any record from any seller.

Blimey, 14 PM's on one record, whats's going on? OK just to update everyone who's asking. Two best offers so far are 1) 1300 cash, 2) 1500 cash & trades. n.b I'm just selling this for someone as a favour, it's not mine, but you can still try to bribe me if you want to

Dewey Black - takin Love Where I Find It - ReeFlair EX taking offers if anyone's interested cheers pete

People might think this is rare but it isn't - I've had 4, maybe 5, never sold one for more than £75 and still wouldn't. Nothing on Ska Beat is truly rare because they kept all of the old stock and sold them off in the 80's for 10p each. Or something like 10p each.

£25 tops.