Quinvy

Agree with Jimmy, seems to be quite a few rare vinyl collectors of all genres. Nothing to do with the "Scene" as we know it. Just like collectors of rare art or porcelain etc.

Thats fine Russ if you are lucky enough to have the financial stability to enable this utopia. I would love to still have my records, but every bit of money I had was in them. So when I lost my job they had to go.

Like I said earlier, thay have been saying the bottom will fall out of the market since the 80's. Yet it just keeps going up.

Whoever e***e is, he/she must have some money. They seem to bid on nearly every big rarity that comes up on eBay, and they win a fair amount of them too. There's some nice stuff going through, must be nice to be able to afford them.

what did it go for Rod?

Who's Paul?

Boot!

There's definitely some politics involved as well. I've been to places that were always rammed, yet to me offered very little. There seems to be a bit of "everyone is going there, so we'll go with our mates". It's a social do for many people I think. The things that matter to me don't seem to matter to most people, that's why I was interested in others thoughts. The things that make a great nighter for me are: 1. Well set up sound system. (It doesn't matter how good the music if you can't hear it) 2. Dj's with taste. 3. Atmospheric venue. 4. Decent size dance floor. Simple as that.

The vultures are circling.

Looks proper mate. I seem to remember that the bootlegs have a small hiss just as the music kicks in?

That version does sound like Joe Simon.

Social media is anathema to me, but I have had to get on it in order to promote my business. However, and please shoot me down if I'm wrong, but you can only "reach" the people who are your "friends" or "followers" can't you? You can't just stick an add on Facebook and expect thousands of people to see it. I constantly get messages telling me to "promote my business" but when you click on the button you are invited to pay up for the privilege.

You've got it Len. I once went to an event that had literally thousands of views and many hundreds of posts, and there was no bigger there. I hear that certain events are packed, but I never really see any of them advertised so I just wondered how the hell the promoter gets them there?

I have noticed that things have changed big style since I was promoting. So how do promoters well, promote their events these days? The events forum on here used to be full of, well if I'm honest, bullshit from promoters and their loyal supporters. This seems to have all but disappeared now. So how do people find out about events, is it Facebook, Twitter etc? or is it simply heavy flyer bombing of other events? It's a genuine question and not meant to cause any grief.

The quality cheapies are nearly impossible to sell to a dealer because they have them in quantity. I mean stuff like Ric-Tic, unless you have mint white demo's If you look at the records that continue to rise in price and hold their value, they seem to be mainly the classics that were played at Wigan, or the really rare stuff from the Stafford era. I think you could actually invest in this type of record, as long as they were minty and you didn't play them too often. People have been saying that the bottom would drop out of the market since the seventies. But it just seems to keep getting stronger.

Yes I apologise, I hadn't noticed that one.

Advertised at £7 each with free postage.

I too have been moved to tears, but not for the same reasons.

Thing is though.............and it's in my all time top ten favourite records. If you are desperate to own it in mint condition, you either wait, and wait, and wait until one comes up for sale again, or you go for it. Time is running out for most of us, and the next copy could go for even more. I think it's a fact that recently the big money has been going on the real quality records. Rarity alone isn't the major factor. Records of this caliber are as near to timeless as you can get. The stuff that people are playing now at the so called upfront venues will never achieve the greatness that records like this have. I know they were played to death back in the day. But if you haven't heard them for a long time, then re visit them again, they totally blow you away. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that records of this caliber are always going to be in demand. The cream will always rise to the top.

Yes that's all it is. We have had this debate many times on here. The last time someone told me I was doing it wrong and should be using Ambersil and microfibre cloths. I am always willing to learn something new and sent away for a can and a pack of top quality cloths. What a bloody waste of money that was. It stinks to high heaven and doesn't do the job. Hot water and fairy liquid. Make a pad out of a sheet of "Plenty" kitchen towel. Gently wash the vinyl/styrene while holding the record through the centre with two fingers, over the water, but angled down so the water drains off the record. Gently work round the playing surface, then do the other side. Have some more pieces of plenty folded in half and use these to dry the record surface. Thats it. The best way I've ever found of cleaning records. And the difference is startling. Don't forget to put the record in a brand new sleeve, because the dust in old record sleeves is microscopic and you will just get it all in the grooves again.

The fact remains that no one else would have dared to play those records at Lifeline. My point being that just because people attend a so called up front night doesn't mean they don't love the classics. I was replying to Bearsy who stated that you can't play oldies to an upfront crowd, and vice versa.

Not at all Kev, James was new to the scene and he had just discovered those records. So he was playing tunes that had blown him away. The fact that us old un's had been blown away by those records twenty years earlier wasn't an issue for James.

Just a couple of points here. Sorry I don't have a clue how to do multi quotes on the new site, and with the iPad. 1. It's a fact that Soul Sam used to pack the R&B room at Middleton, when he was in the main room playing his King Mosses and other such horrors. 2. Lifeline was always supposed to be THE upfront venue with THE most discerning punters. So imagine my amusement when James Trouble got behind the decks and absolutely packed the floor with about half a dozen classic oldies.

I've not found any. They were available years ago, but every single place I've tried, they have been the same flimsy crap. I even spent a fortune on some from the States, and yes, they were crap too. Not only are they thinner, they are smaller as well. It's a tight fit trying to double sleeve records with these.