Steve G

Think it was just an acetate that John Anderson found in the 70s. Don't think there is a Magic City connection. Just one of those Popcorn unissued thingies. Steve

It's a really interesting question how the soul scene in the uk would have evolved without those clubs and worthy of a thread on it's own. No idea, probably be just armchair collectors puffing on pipes and reading Soul Bowl lists. History certainly has it's part to play, maybe I'm just a bit tired of hearing the same old stories from the same old 'talking heads' over and over again.

You had it easy Mark......Cardboard box? We used to dream of a cardboard box......etc etc

I must admit I am a bit fed up with hearing these old codgers going on about the scene back in the day. We smashed up a drug shop, bla bla, we stayed up all night bla bla, Major Lance at the Torch bla bla. My mate's Cortina broke down and we thumbed it up the M6 bla bla. We were cold, we were poor but we were happy bla bla. I think as well as your points these radio perspectives could also cover how NS has gone global - european nights and weekenders, USA, Far East, Russia, OZ, NZ etc. etc. So yeah fair points Callum -get us in the studio!

But Carol, it's not a film about the scene today, and no one as far as I am aware is forcing you to go and see it (thought I bet when it comes out you probably will). Goodness, no one apart from us on here would go and see a film about today's scene. It's a film about the 70's and people as they were then (young!). So no old baldies in baggie vests, except maybe the actor playing someone's grandad. Don't seem to recall this fuss about any other films that look back at a past time. Brighton Rock, The Help, Tinker Tailor all out this year have all looked back to a past time, and all been highly entertaining films.

Merry Xmas Mark

For me Paul two very different scenes. Rare soul fans like some oldies, don't find many oldies fans who like much rare soul. There's essentially been two seperate scenes for some years now in my book. Yes that was an interesting revelation. I heard the plug for Andy Davies, didn't realise it was "our" Andy Davies.

And are you listening to the show then? Pretty good although obviously mostly about oldies.

An interesting post. TOTP "ruined Wigan" yes I heard that too. But with the benefit of hiensight this was a shortsighted view. I was there later when we were saying turn the lights down / keep the cameras out of Wigan. At the time we were horrified at "This England" etc. But then again the scene has always benefitted from the new blood that's it's fleeting moments in the limelight have brought. I am sure some of the people that saw TOTP went on to become scene stalwarts in the same way as some got into it in the late 70s when we had the mod revival (Quadraphenia etc), and some latter day mods have migrated from Shitsea-On Sea scooter weekenders popping their Parkas to Tamla Motown chartbusters, to appreciate today's rare soul scene. And so it goes on...... Steve

Off the scene by about 1970, before many of us were born matey and well before the 'WC' was opened for northern business.

Now you've gone and done it! Next week there'll be a thread about "famous people on the scene" (Part 56) and someone will mention Ann Diamond went to Wigan. Anyway it was Anna Ford as you well know : On Chris Evans isn't he given records to play? So he plays an occasional northern one, so what? Jeepers I heard Frank Wilson on HSBC radio and someone else heard a northern track playing in Tescos the other week. HMV Westfield Stratford was playing Millie Jackson "My man a sweet man" at 17.54 yesterday, I heard it and could help it but start doing a dance in the queue with my Harry Potter box set etc etc. Bella Delena (pop shi*te) opened up the Butlins programme on ITV tonight - shall we start a thread on that? People, northern soul records exist, and get played from time to time in the media. Didn't realise it was such a big deal.

Oh RICH try and keep up we did the Jackie Wilson thing days ago - the world has moved on

Yep watched it now and thought it was pretty good. Some good clips of the "teaser". Sian went out with someone on the scene who was that then? Elaine came across well and I thought PW did OK as well. There's always going to be a bit of poetic license with BBC Breakfast which is aimed at a mass market, not at our closed world, and the joke about leaving your teeth at the front door was quite funny and probably not too far off the mark at some venues. This interview is not going to affect people attending upfront venues, and if it helps Elaine get more financing for her film, then that's great.

Never had them, unlike you Paul.

Agggrrrhhhh no, not more people requesting Holly St James and Paul Anka please Dean!!!

Will watch it later but after that plug for Miners (or was it Minors at Wigan?) I am hoping the N.U.M will be investing some of their pension funds in Elaine's film.

No don't believe so Mike

mines a 1279 issue Mike. Prob just got the numbers mixed up.

Thanks Nick. Here's the playlist from this week's show. C Coulter "Can't fight the feeling" BBP "I'm in the prime of love" (last one on Stang) Robert Montgomery "I need you girl" The Rhythm Machine "Whatcha gonna do" Quixotics "Reach out" Phyllis Hyman "Can't live without you" (Expansion CD, take on Connie Laverne) Philadelphia Story "Movin to the side of love" (H&L unissued) Brotherhood "When you need me" Gemini "Unchanging love" Little Caeser cover up LOL Melvin Brown & James Matthews "Love stormy weather" Eloise Laws "I think you need love" (Music Merchant unissued) Darrow Fletcher "Let's get together" (Atco) Thomas Lord Duckett "Open up your eyes" The Scott Three "Running wild" Fluorescent Smogg "All my life" Broken Melody "What's happening baby" Otis Jackson "Beggin' for a broken heart" Interlude Xmas records: Donny Hathaway "This christmas" Luther "May Christmas bring you happiness" The Emotions "What do the lonely do at Christmas" (for everyone at the 02) Bobby Womack "Dear Santa" James Brown "Santa claus go straight to the ghetto" Lonnie Hill "Cold winter in the ghetto" Funk Machine "Soul Santa" Private Chas Bowens & Gentlemen from Tigerland "Christmas in Vietnam" ....... Don Gardner "We're gonna make it big" Brother Love "Precious dove" Harvest "Searching for love" Africano "Satisfactorize your mind" Willie Feaster & Concrete Wall "Voices" The Leaders "(It's a) Rat Race" Thompson Brothers "You brought love into my life" El Anthony "We've been in love too long" "Who's cheating on who" Natural Impulse "She went away"

This ties in with my understanding Pete. I heard that her mates at Granada used to go there a bit, basically after the pubs shut, and she tagged along once or twice. Very different to someone like PW who has collected records quietly etc. used to run soul nights and wrote articles.

Hi Nick I'd agree with most of the above except to say there are some pretty strong collections amongst the non millionaire soul fans on here and beyond. But apart from that agree 100% with the sentiment. I think a lot of this tosh is fuelled by jeleousy. And by the way RICH making a comment on TV - how does that compare to people who crave Paul Anka records every week who are also on here?

Re the Jackie Wilson comment, I'd dismiss it as heat of the moment live TV stuff. At least Pete knew who recorded the song. That Louis Walsh chap struggles with even Shalamar top 10 hits and Tulisa has never heard of Aretha Franklin songs when sung by the girl from Manchester (Micha B?). He doesn't try to muscle in on the scene as far as I am aware and isn't opening a soul night near you, so if he likes the music but gets it wrong sometimes, that's ok by me. And Ady his railway stuff is 'top notch' :

amazing as it sounds that's probably doing a dis-service to the beach boys :

Don't know what the fuss is about. He used to write a column (briefly) in B&S in the mid 70s. So he was there. Also seen him on one of them documentaries - not quite right, but I don't doubt his integrity on this issue. Plus I'd love to have his model railway of Leamington Spa or wherever it is :

Jordi Mother of 3 no good I am afraid. In collecting these labels I would have to say Jakki was probably the hardest. I know of only 2-3 copies.