Steve G

Some great ideas there, but who'se gonna 'police' that - these soul police I guess, whoever they are. But that's part of the problem here, everyone's a DJ in some places. Too many "volunteers" / pocket money blokes, and venue recirocals "you can do mine if I do yours" - honestly it's like a bloody wife swapping club in some parts of the UK.

It's hard to find, but I don't think it's worth £1500 in todays market. There are a number of rare 80s things but the market has shrunk for them - everyone wants funky northern now . Good example for comparison purposes Bobby Barnes and Rush Hour. The one recently didn't reach anything near what I was expecting, for it's quality (two great sides) and rareness. ATB Steve

If you are selling it's $134. The one on Popsike was vg. The one for £1,500 was also quite noisy. Maybe the same copy? I don't think it's worth £1500 in todays market place.

Oscar Perry?

Ian, I just don't buy this. So who is the promotor? WHat do the other prmotors do? Sit back and watch? Who are the undisputed key current kings of the DJ world? If it's newies are't half a dozen of em already on at Lifeline? If you started a thread on DJs, you'd have a list as long as your arms and legs before the morning....and those that don't make the top 8 for this mega niter would ne nosed out of joint. We've kind of gone past all that now. Even if someone did try and assemble some sort of 2,000 night, after the first one the numbers would fall away for the second night. Sorry if I sound pessimistic, but the scene is split and the factions just won't ever come together at this point. I wouldn't go to a pure oldies night if it was in me next door neighbours house and I am sure some oldies fans feel the same way about newies. What's so wrong with having smaller venues where like minded folk pick and choose which ones to go and enjoy 'emselves?

So let me put it this way ad make it simple to understand. You send me a record, the postie leaves a card. I have to drive over to Parcel force or the PO and I email you and ask for some money back for the costs I have incurred. You gonna give me some money back? Might be a much smaller scale than Premium Stuff's bill but the principle is the same. Imagine being the seller and then the recipient of that email asking for something back.

Yup agree with you Len. Think Ian's aspirational once a month venue catering for all tastes is pie in the sky these days. 2,000 people? Kings Hall struggles to match that, and that's nearly all oldies. And one Kingpin promotor? Yeah....right. Ian the scene has fragmented mate, we're all on micro scenes now

The only other copy I know was with Butch a few years back. A few others may have it but not many. Hard one to price in the current economic climate.

Col the Sugar Cane one is quite hard to source. Have played it on radio on and off, but a nice record once you get past those sea waves at the beginning....

It amounts to the same thing - a buyer going back to a seller and asking for some money back after the transaction has gone through. It's not like the record ain't in the same condition as described, or hisses or something. I doubt your average seller is going to agree to pay some money back, they'd probably think it was one of these chancers we keep hearing about. But if Richard has done it, then good luck to the fella.

Doesn't look very good does it? You sell a record for an agreed price, get paid net of paypal deductions, then someone comes back with a tale of their customs charges and asks for some money back? It's probably a good job I'm not a record seller

Well I agree Mike that there are those that are just trying to get what I once termed "Trophy records" for the "playbox". The likes of Don Gardner, Salvadores, Eddie Parker, Tomangoes etc. But some seem to think if a record is more than a fiver it ain't no good. Steve

Hi John, you sure you don't mean his alternative version of "Living in the fotsteps" which I did play off acetate at the Orwell, as well at other venues. It was a £30 'find' at a record dealer in Yorks.

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Look the northern scene has since the early 70s been about rare records, and having something others don't have. Do some of you not realise when Ian Levine, Colin Curtis, Dicky S, Ian Dewhirst, Poke etc were playing their new discoveries back in "the good old days" they weren't "rare" records? Of course they were, until someone found further copies. Virtually all of the stuff we take for granted today started life as rare records. Some of you need to get over this inverse snobbishness ffs.

Bob A playing CDs????? - in the words of the Detroit classic "NEVER in a million years".

Strewth, I'd forgotten about the Wigan 38th anniversary....... Yeah I just don't think it will happen today Ian, nice as it sounds. One persons "must attend" is another persons "not on your Nelly". Prestatyn probably a bad example......since most of the music in the main room was staler than last years eggs for some of us. There is not one scene anymore Ian.

Is this when you discuss the merits of British comedy Bob?

Can't embed them but some tracks off Raphael Saadiq, Lee Fields, Sharon Jones, and some of the stuff Carl has done.

James carr was a legend.#But then so was James Carmichael. Plenty on google about both I'd wager. BTW some Trivia: One well known member on here (60s fan from London) actually named their daughter after this "Melodie" record......but who is it?

why Pete because if you tell parcel farce to send it back (PS does not have the record and I bet they won't release it to him without PS paying em), they'll probably do it as cheap as possible, slow, might well get lost in a warehouse. He cannot redirect it to a trusted soul source member, his options are pay up, or return to sender, uninsured and trusting parcelfarce. Steve In fairness I don't think thast's what PS has said?

why Pete because if you tell parcel farce to send it back (PS does not have the record and I bet they won't release it to him without PS paying em), they'll probably do it as cheap as possible, slow, might well get lost in a warehouse. He cannot redirect it to a trusted soul source member, his options are pay up, or return to sender, uninsured and trusting parcelfarce. Steve

Thanks for posting that AlanB hadn't thought about the tax being there to protect the uk sellers from being unfairly disadvantaged. Thing is some of these records aren't available from uk dealers, well not at the same time ayway, so it's a bit of a minefield. And of course not all dealers charge VAT either. In fact I've never bought a record to be told there's VAT on top, however I guess those dealers that are registered have to take it as a net hit on their sales?.....but I still think Premium Stuff should pay it as a one off rather than trying to send the record back.

whether we like it or not julesp is technically correct. Duty is payable on the value of goods imported as declared by the seller. It's a real minefield and very hit and miss. Most of the time we don't get charged, occasionally we get stung big time. Seems that's what's happened here. Bout time import duties were relaxed I say. They go back to the days of trade barriers and all that...