Chalky

Hi Larry I'm not privy to your email but my email is chalky@karlwhite.me.uk If you wish to contact me we can get the story down in an article, it would be great to get it out there. Fabulous group with some quality recordings. All the very best Chalky

Hi Larry I was in touch with James Bailey up until recently, he though the rest of you had all passed so great to hear another of you is still alive. James was in a nursing home but they moved him somewhere else and they wouldn't tell me where due to daft data protection laws so was unable to get the full story. All the best Chalky

For sure Kev, same over here, we don't really know what is tucked away in collections. I was referring more to the scene and what we think is out there. We know what is rare and what isn't. Chalkster

There shouldn't be a supply of test pressing Carl, at least not on a commercial basis, the same for promos.

Be amazed working here

Depends, if you've been buying and selling, been around the record bars for many years you get some idea what is out there, not exact but some idea. There will always be copies not known about but for many of what we collect we know what is rare or not and in many cases a good idea of quantity or not. Some will always know more than others so in that respect it could be subjective.

One or two seem to be missing the point. I fully understand the need for test presses, quality control and all that, they are necessary. But some dealers (recordshack for one) are issuing 50 records prior to the issue with a test press label. Now if these are genuine test presses why the need for 50 when the norm would appear to be throughout the decades half a dozen. These 50 are advertised as test pressing and as a Dj tool. They are not promos, they are sold at a higher price. Some of these test presses are stil available online bit are sold by other parties marked up again. Surely this is just exploitation of the market?

Record prices no longer reflect rarity in most instances.

You don't need 50 test press's though to check the quality though.

it was in every dealers boxes. Guy got stock of Lorraine Rudolph, it was his cover up. He'd sell one and another would come from under the table.

That is the idea of promos and the right way. I've seen examples of sales with 50 run test press and I've also seen labels advertise the same themselves. I've also seen labels sell plain white labels for a decent mark up before the issue...again it is simply exploiting the scene IMO. Not sure if it is an attempt to give a Johnny come lately Dj some sort of kudos?

Anyone who has been around records, selling, collecting etc knows there is decent quantity of Jack Montgomery. I must have seen a copy for sale from a different seller every week for years. But I think you know that yourself and know what is meant by quite common.

Much of the stock of Shrine 45s were lost in a fire at the distributors during the riots.

Wade Flemins - Jeanette Dottie & Millie Ringleaders

Sad news. RIP Chrissie.

Charlie Rich....

My definition? Well the scan was obviously aimed at those with a sense of humour, Pork as in pork sausage As for the term, I've only ever seen in mentioned on line, never heard it in a venue by a Dj or any dealer and personally I couldn't care less.

who said a sweet soul record can't be a banger.....this one has all the ingredients

I keep seeing sales for certain newish releases which advertise a limited press of 30/50 etc white label test pressings? My understanding is test pressing are five or six only so surely these are a run without out any label design to speak off, not test pressings. Just another way to exploit the market IMO.

nope it is free You can go pro which has benefits you don't really need for what you intend to do

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Tony Diamond sounds nothing like the other two to my ears.

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