Chalky

You can prove they paid the dues etc by showing the paperwork, until then this for me is simply another Belgian boot. There's been Belgian boots before with Sabam on the label.

Jeff's blog, articles always a good read. His book is well worth picking up too... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Savage-Lost-Florida-Garage-Beyond/dp/0942963121

F*** me, that's shocked me Paul was a good mate especially the time I was spending in Barnsley. Regularly put me up when I came up to DJ (every week for a couple of years lol) at the Tracky. Had some great times with Paul and Ali. R.I.P. Paul.

Those "new" collectors ought to do a little homework, it is amazing what google comes up with, have they never heard of it?

There is one 45 on soul junction with two previously unissued tracks by JB Bingham and another one forthcoming with 1 more unreleased track.

Musically it is generally what it is here but without the divisions. Many promotions have Dj's from the UK, some I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to in this country let alone pay to travel abroad and listen to The punters danced whether they knew the record or not which was refreshing to see.

i think if you'd have asked any sensible collector and/or dealer two weeks ago what price for JM they would have said what others are saying in this topic. If some collector had offered £300 quid for a copy he or she would probably have secured on. Of they'd offered 400/500 they would probably have got several offers. The same for Epitome of Sound, ludicrous prices that display no sense, rhyme or reason. Genuinely rare records such as the Moments on Hog were not much more expensive. The whole market at the minute is bananas, I don't know who has this kinda money to pay for records that are not rare. Is it their pension? Seems strange that prices go bananas when pension laws are relaxed and pensions can now be got at. Time will tell when we see a surge of 55/56 year old DJ's i agree we can't harp back to the good old days but common sense has to be shown. I know some who are walking away from the collecting market and that will only get worse if prices continue to spiral out of control like they are, that is also a bad thing for full time dealers. Do these buyers expect a return at sometime? I hope not cause the bubble will burst and sanity will return.....I hope.

that's 200 quid more than it should be aswell IMO.

Some quality soul music on offer from Mick if you dare venture to the dark side, always a great listen.

I didn't mean to give the impression that Evette Busby was ok for a northern venue, it isn't but I'd probably slip it in if doing a first hour set ;) i've often featured preciously unreleased new releases. I played the forthcoming JB Bingham at last lifeline, sound great too. I've played Secret Stash 45's, Sharpees and the Otis Clay I mentioned plus stuff like the Valdons. I've played the Uptites, Notations (That Girl), Kent releases and others to a full dancefloor who probably couldn't care less at the time. It is more a problem for some on forums and social media who would sooner criticise from behind a keyboard with a user name so they can't be identified, generally it isn't a problem on the shop floor. The biggest moans come from people who don't seem to support the scene except from their armchair yet they seem to get listened to the most for some strange reason. If a record is good enough I will play it. I couldn't (and never have) given a toss what others think. The original ethos of the scene is getting a little out dated especially as new material is getting almost impossible to come by. Some won't be happy until we are totally retro right across the scene.

not sure, I couldn't find one when I looked but I could be since then.

plenty of excellent quality records on your own label Dave, not least the up coming JB Bingham unreleased track. Enough material IMO to do a quality set New release wise, one recent track I've taken to is Evette Busby - Not Here Not Now, decent dancer IMO. 60's wise if uptempo Northern is your thing, from Secret Stash "The Sharpees - Take me tomyour leader" and an Otis Clay track that came as. Abonus 45 with one of the Lp's, title escapes me, begins with "Show" I think. Also two 45's on Soul 7 by the Uptites. Other titles on Kent etc as well. Records are out there but snobbery takes over with many as they are a tenner and recent releaes although often unreleased 60's. But unreleased material will probably be the main source of material for the upfront scene as to progresses with very little coming out via new finds or studio acetates. If this material isn't utilised then we will become a retro scene right across the genres/factions.

that's the one. Great record.

I doubt permission was sought and as you said any money paid to who should have received it. Other boots have also used "official" looking print before. Any proof Sabam was paid?

100% boot IMO.

There's something extra in the backing isn't there if I remember rightly, horns or extra backing? If you alter the pitch though it sounds pretty much the same as the rare release.

One for sale on discos at £110 but it is only vg. I would have thought around £250 for minter although seen at more. One for sale on here a while back for $400.

I think you will find there is no anti modern snobbery with me, I love music right across the decades. If you visit my sites, mix cloud etc you will find I've done more than my fair share to share the music, especially what was heard in the 80's and early 90's, much of which is pretty much semi known and even unknown to many. I get asked questions all the time and do my best to answer or help, from all ages. I don't decry youth, I'd like to see more youngsters, they are the future if we are to have one. I've done more than enough with DJing and promoting to try and make a difference but it is constantly banging your head against a wall with the oldies brigade, both young and old. Spot on Dave.

Arrived in three days from the states... https://www.amazon.com/SCHOOL-Southern-California-Harmony-Records/dp/1461076927 here's the other book of Steve's https://www.amazon.com/Vocal-Groups-1945-1965-Steve-Propes/dp/0936433183

Old School 77 Years of Southern California R&B Vocal Groups by Steve Propes. Excellent source of information. I had to go via US Amazon to get a copy but it was cheap. Steve also did a West Coast Vocal Group book, loads of photos and info Bout the groups but it is really tough to get a copy these days. Rubin Monalas book about the Low Rider Scene is another goold source of info.

I don't really hear the Willingham's these days and much of what I heard the last time I heard them wasn't new but yep they've had their share of newies in the past. Andy's set was pretty well balanced really with quite a few of his favourites that have filled the floor the last few years, records he has made massive such as Cresa Watson etc. The night wasn't really a classic sort of night, it was Lifeline. I agree anywhere else I like some balance, you can't play an hour of unknowns anymore, just won't work. As for requests, especially prior to an event, I prefer to put my trust in the promoter and the DJ to entertain me. I'd ban requests but I always try to play them if asked and I have the record. Thank you for your kind comments re my set

Not saying he was first but if I remember rightly it was big for Steve Smith. It wasn't to expensive or hard to obtain and was quickly picked upon by a few Dj's

That mindset was lost a long time ago. Every aspect of the scene is stale, upfront, crossover and oldies, all playing pretty much records that have been around for a long time. Butch is not interested in Djing in this country it would seem which is a great shame. The only other to my mind who is consistently turning records up is Andy Dyson but the other week, a set full of good lesser and unknown records got little reaction. Far too many more interssted in talking outside or just sitting listening. I do 't know what the answers are? as Phil says the crossover scene is no different to the so called upfront scene, playing records that have been around years with the odd new thing to garner some interest. it would seem to me that many seem to treat it as a social thing with the music coming second, this includes all-nighters as well as soul nights. Probably age having a major say in what people do at a venue. The smoking ban hasn't helped either. Of course the social apsect has always been important but so was the music. The scene as quite rightly said is extremely healthy venue wise but for how long? Still not enough youngsters to carry the torch, especially at all-nighters, many don't seem to travel far and wide but then again you don't have to and what is the point in travelling when what you will hear is pretty much what you can hear locally. I've seen many play lists for all-nighters and they are no different to local oldies nights, I certainly won't travel for that anymore and I won't travel to hear the funk (funky) stuff being played either, much of it second rate, poor quality music (IMO). Whatever people do it is their choice and we are not in a position to argue really. Those that do have an interst in moving e scene forward can only do so from the inside as a promoter or Dj but there is little chance with so many promotions and Dj's up and down the country every week who seem more than happy with the status quo. As Kegsy says just do what makes you happy or stop in.

So Sunday afternoon sessions is the hope for the future of the scene. Don't get me wrong, some great music at the H&G, great crowd but is a Sunday afternoon and home by 9 really the future?

The scene and individuals within it who are in it for themselves rather than, or do not see the bigger picture are eating away at the health of the scene from the inside. The sad thing is by the time they realise what is happening it will be too late. A plethora of venues doesn't equate to health. There is a huge choice of venues with little choice, all doing the same thing, all playing the same thing. The upfront side is no better either with some pretty poor records IMO getting far too much action and the crowds are dwindling, having to make do with a side room to survive. DJ's with no imagination...thats rigth across the board. Makes me sad to see the state the scene is getting itaelf in and we only have ourselves to blame. Far too many people now don't dance, many more than happy to spend the night stood outside....christ knows why anyone would spend a tenner to sit or stand outside a venue? The scene might appear to be on the crest of a commercial wave but those riding that wave who have come from no where, who have no history will disappear just as quickly as they arrived, many youngsters don't travel and once a few commitments come into their lives they will probably disappear as well. As for record prices they are simply forcing people to resort to boots and reissues as stupidity takes over, all sense out of the window,