Chalky

Can we take the personal stuff to PM's or simply ignore?

When I was 18 soul nights and all-nighters catered for what I wanted. All the DJ's were allowed to use imagination, all sought the next new big record. You went to a nighter but you went to a local soul night before hand. Sure there was still the politics, they've always been there regardless what people think. It still does cater for what I want but on a lot smaller scale, most all-nighters don't have anything new and there is a ridiculous amount of promoters and promotions clashing. As I said in an earlier post 21 venues all local to me, some towns/cities with several events in one weekend some just a few miles apart on the same night. Today time, family, work, money, all have an influence in what we do at the weekend and we want to utilise all of those the best way we can yet all the clashing is having an adverse affect on our nights out. Sure there are venues that cater for everyone but they could be and should be so much better, especially locally. Grumbling and moaning has always been there too, the same argument we have now have always been there too, oldies vs. newies etc. Back in the day you didn't have an outlet at your finger tips to express your feelings and opinions like you have now with soul source. You had to send a letter to one of the few magazines running and by the time it was printed the argument was probably irrelevant by then......that is why you seem to get more grumbling and moaning but in reality nothing has changed just the method.

I don't disagree with you Win, there are many who do enjoy themselves. However you quoting me has taken my quote completely out of context, I was replying specifically to the question that there seems to be a lot of complaints/moaning about "top 500" yet why no complaints in lookbacks. You should have quoted the original question not me. The way forward is for promoters to look at the bigger picture not just selfish reasons and for more tolerance from both oldies lovers and the more "upfront" lovers of soul music or more to the point Northern Soul. One can't do without the other, the good newer discoveries still filter down eventually but I guess the oldies scene doesn't need the "newies" scene as much as the "newies" scene needs the oldies crowd, certainly on the all-nighter front.

I'm of the opinion that if you are going to promote and take money of people on the door then you should at least go to the trouble of hearing any dj you book. A cd doesn't give a fair reflection of someone's ability behind the decks and in laying down a set.

There are already soul weeks aren't there. Admittedly in the sun abroad but they are about. Soul cruises as well. Saga for the soulie.

Maybe most are of the opinion that if nowt good to say then don't say owt.

Promoters are the problem not punters. Just looked local to me and there are 21 promotions this weekend. Saturday, there is Wakefield, Knottingly and Leeds, all within close proximity to each other, especially Wakefield and Knottingly which are just 20 minutes apart. Surely it would be better too have one packed promotion than three with smaller poorer attendances. Not saying who is in the right or wrong...all three might be packed but from what I have heard that is far from the case at times. There are more than one event in places like Sheffield and Barnsley with two or more within 30 minutes drive of each other. I dare say this is repeated all over the country? Surely at some point common sense has to take over? Maybe it is time promoters got together, put on a bigger event locally, catering for everyone, oldies with other stuff intelligently mixed with some imagination? Attendees have also got to do their part and accept they won't like every record, accept others will like what they won't and show a bit of patience and understanding. This would all make for a healthier and stronger scene, not just locally but nationally too.

There's about 30 listed in events/weekenders up until September next year I think. Thats world wide but I guess not everyone uses SS to advertise. Still the equivalent of over two per month between now and then.

It will only turn into an oldies vs. newies topic if folks turn it into one. The topic is about the number of events on at the moment.

Just had a listen Steve, very similar, especially the horns.

It's on Hitbound. It's also on one of the Ol Virginia CDs.

Unless Kitch decides to sell his and put a sound file with his sale then NO, no sound file, not until refosoul is back up and running.

Those with more money than sense survive, the quality ones are usually the ones to suffer.

I agree I'm all for open debate and opinions and views from both sides, both for and against but the language used by million tears is somewhat OTT for a two minute trailer. As before can you please post an intro about yourself at the following link...... Members Shouts and Intros

yes then 77. Presume Solid Gold Records then Garpax with a few seconds knocked off the take, both 1977 as dave P says.

Des told me other month but I've forgotten

I agree Kev you can't have enough info but don't you think it's time we got the right info on this subject by now? Lets see some decent scans and info or the disc and clear up the confusion that surrounds this record.

Nothing grumpy about what I said or me Kev. Just a simple fact we seem to be going round in circles and the more that is said the more confusion there seems to be. Maybe we should have a different topic for Arctic and cover all the issues and reissues etc. It would certainly make life easier with decent 300dpi and 400 x 400 scans with matrix details. There is even confusion in this topic with "you're number 1" now to add to it.

I think when you see a Motown night advertised it is more than likely Jimmy Mack & My Girl rather than Suspicion and Come On Back To Me Baby.

the second one definitely different to the first 77 youtube clip, you can hear the twangy guitar at the beginning and through it but not there on 77 one, it is there also on the SGR release.

I thought it was Butch who first covered up the Regents?

A dozen topics, god knows how many posts and still confusion reigns. Can we have decent quality scans with matrix details of all the releases?

Was the French release on Frankie as well?

Yes, been that way for a long while. They are clearly not aimed at the likes of us although if an act was on then that might be of interest. The type I think you are referring to Mike wouldn't interest me.

Why? And do you mind posting an intro for other members please, just say hello let us know a bit about you