Chalky

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But you can buy an original for the price of a bootleg? No need to play boots at all.

cut the off topic please and stick to what the topic is about, there are plenty of topics about boots. As said this is about if you play originals and at what venue. Now if you do play boots then say what venue then members can choose whether to attend or not.

if it is of interest yes.

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no it's nothing like a Northern Soul record, the beat is alien to what dancers normally hear (IMHO). Don't know why DJ's have to resort to stuff like this when there is so much good northern dancers ignored.

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I play both sides of Billy Hambric, Dave Raistrick played it of late as well. Jackie Beavers and Tamala Lewis both get plays, Construction can't remember last time I heard it. Plenty on this topic I thought were in the "classic northern" category, not forgotten?

It was about ten years ago Dave, I did have an e-mail from Dave Burton telling me the story. Anyway he recent;y joined SS so maybe if he is reading this he will tell the story . There was 4 tracks done I think.

They did recycle back then Roger and re-use the excess vinyl. Styrene had better properties for recycling. On vinyl pressings where re-grind/recycled was used you can often hear hiss in apparently mint vinyl pressings.

Some good info about vinyl/strene and its re-use at the following page, click on the terminology link https://vinylville.tripod.com/faq.html some other useful info in there too, how records are made, step by step for instance.

I'll take a look Dave, cheers. Bit wary about those that are advertised as used - good condition?

He was he bought up what was left I believe.

Shifty bough Didn't see a glossy one till after it became a popular spin commanding a decent amount of money.

Not all the copies that flooded the market were represses. I differ in opinion about the represses Russ. I personally think they were done after the record went big, dealers source the group or members of the group for copies and with the drummer having access to the plates pressed more up. I doubt it was old stock? Was the record ever popular back in the 60's, so much so one member did another run of the record?

I have the Record Me: Chess records book Dave but not had chance to read yet, still reading the Road Through Motown, Ralph Terrana.

I wonder if any result of this poll would make promoters change their opinions about how they run their nights? I doubt it. And I've been wondering why others think it is just collectors, DJ's or promoters that are voting....we have no idea who is voting really and have to assume it is a wide cross section of the scene, just like the membership of this site really...it's not all collectors, DJ's and promoters on here believe it or not. I've also wondered why some think a collector, promoter or DJ's opinion isn't somehow valid? They pay their money like everyone else, they contribute just as much and in some cases more than your average punter so why shouldn't their vote count?

Wasn't it Lil Peddler (forget his real name) who had all the copies that turned up, he was feeding them out for ages.

It would seem that many aspects of the industry was simply a front for organised crime and criminals, suppose it was a way to legalise other aspects of their "business". I've read of distributors threatened by bigger companies to stop distributing competition or they would lose their business and of course there is payola. I guess it was a real cut-throat business back then. You only have to read Jackie Wilson's biography to read about the influence of the mod over artists......wasn't part of the JW biog removed in later prints? Anyone got a decent copy of "Stiffed" they want to part with?

Another book about the industry (although not necessarily about the distribution) to have is Record Makers and Breakers: Voices of the Independent Rock 'n' Roll Pioneers (Music in American Life) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Record-Makers-Breakers-Independent-Pioneers/dp/025207727X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1318538211&sr=1-1 Review "Covering the convoluted history of the recording industry from the 1940s to the 1960s, [broven] combines in-depth archival research with fascinating anecdotes about chart-toppers, shady characters and label owners... The impact of conniving entrepreneurs on the musicians and the layering of rich details and digressive detours as Broven traces the transition from R & B to rock make this equal to Roger D. Kinkle's massive, four-volume Complete Encyclopedia of Popular Music and Jazz." --Publishers Weekly "Broven is masterful, making Record Makers an essential book for anyone interested in not only American musical culture but American culture, period." American Songwriter "A rich and engaging history ... A first-rate picture of how this whole rock 'n' roll thing got started." --New York Daily News "4 stars. Welcome to a world filled with payola, the mob and jukebox sounds." --Mojo Product Description This volume is an engaging and exceptional history of the independent rock 'n' roll record industry from its raw regional beginnings in the 1940s with R & B and hillbilly music through its peak in the 1950s and decline in the 1960s. John Broven combines narrative history with extensive oral history material from numerous recording pioneers including Joe Bihari of Modern Records; Marshall Chess of Chess Records; Jerry Wexler, Ahmet Ertegun, and Miriam Bienstock of Atlantic Records; Sam Phillips of Sun Records; Art Rupe of Specialty Records; and many more.

the cup of char is better

The shiny label copies were done from the same stampers as Russ says although don't think they have the music city stamp the originals have. Crock O Sh*te IMO....far better Carolinas records out there than this.

Wiggyflat and anyone else, just a reminder that if going to post videos like the one above with adult content that to some is offensive and certainly not work safe can you post a warning along with the video. Some people have no wish to open a video and find content such as in the one posted. Thanks.

I doubt it will put an end to the boot vs original topics but hey ho life goes on. Members have the choice whether to read the topics or not and it amazes me why some go and read them then complain. I have to read them regardless or as much as possible.

I could add are you a promoter, dj collector or none of the above if thats is what you want? As far as I know anyone can vote. I would have thought that the vast majority who read SS are members, there are 16000 after all.