Chris L

I don't know which Ricky Tick I went to meethinks Croydon, did Pantiles loadsa times

"it would seem to be a common theme that some of shall we say the more upfront rare soul venues are finding it difficult to get decent numbers through the doors, lost count how many times I read the music was brilliant but numbers were down, seems a little odd to me that when you look at the playlists many of the DJ's are playing top end records which command the big ticket prices on auctions etc. yet fail to draw the masses in which seems to make a nonsence to the whole rare soul ethic." Here's the relevant part of Marks original posting - that's what I answered, nothing to do with oldies am beta dan rare hence my desire for the rare guys and gals to stop so defensive. Facts are facts, I hope my contribution answered the question.

Actually I'm enjoying Belgian Popcorn and 70s stuff more than I ever did But nothing sends shivers down my spine than "the Spellbinders - Help me" type of choon.....................after all it's wotz I woz born wiv..........

I quoted BIDDS because that's the one that seems to be held up as an example of a forward looking soul event, maybe it is, maybe it's not, maybe it's cutting edge music that people will look back and say "yeah that was cool" I'm sure that will be the case, thing is it will be a small amount of people who do and hey!! that's their choice and right. I've been to about 5 venues where "rare soul" was the main sort of music, just not my taste I'm afraid, I've heard little turns me on. Trust me there's a bunch of oldies I can't hear anymore even some I've never liked much, I like to think I have an open mind, if I like it then I like it and visa versa. Perhaps people who do promote the RS scene could tone down their ferociousness and be less defensive, after all it's hardly a matter of life or death..................

Belgian Popcorn anyone ?

Russ When I went to the Torch/Mecca/Cats/etc I heard sounds that I had only dreamed about, never heard, coming from London, in 1972 hardly the centre for NS. All I can say is what I see, when I go to a rare type venue I don't see alot of people, I went to BIDDS, didn't count but didn't look like much more than 100/150 and I did count the people on the dance floor, never more than ten when we were there. When I go to an oldies venue they seem to be larger and full, the dancefloors tend to stay full too. I hope this answers your question. I'm sure for someone who's passionate about discovering new sounds it must be tough to see the oldies venues being apparantly so succesful. Chris

As you say, it's only your humble opinion..............

Stoke still packs them in and the Torch revival has been a sellout both times, copled with the fact that there seems to be loads and loads events been held, surely "only the strong survive", maybe that rare soul scene is not so resilient.

Someone once wrote "The North of England missed out on the sixties, so they had them in the seventies instead" the NS scene was/is all about nostalga coupled with going out and having a good time. The rare soul scene has always been a small one, more atune to collectors than dancers, it's no surpise at all that these venues don't pull in the numbers that 'oldies' nights do. It's all a question of maths, NS touched something like a half a million youths from 1969 to the present day, rare soul types can be counted in the hundreds.

Haven't been myself but when I see photos I'm shocked.............check out these Tripadvisor reviews, what a hoot... https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g551989-d625803-Reviews-Pontin_s_Prestatyn_Sands_Centre-Prestatyn_Denbighshire_North_Wales_Wales.html Love the remarks like : "was not worth the petrol money! waste of time travelling." "Would rather eat dog mess" "RUN , Run , Run for your life!!" "disgusting disgusting disgusting" Here are some snaps taken by (un)satisfied customers .................. Rust is optional Ironing the carpet, that's a new one to me !! A bathroom with a birdsnest, fresh eggs for breakfast ?

Ask the DJ to play it ?

With an attached Northern Soul old folks home, they'd do a bomb.......................

Pontins were stuck in the 1960s, which is fine for Northern Soul fans but they just couldn't compete with Spain or Center Parks, life goes on................................

What dates ?

Yeah looks like it Mark, I made a promise to dance if a certain DJ played it, so I need to get practicing...........

Don't mind what label or condition, many thanks, Chris

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Picked up a nice Titoni today

Thanks everybody, keep 'em coming.......................

The sound/play quality on President if far better than on that Bronco label

Been on the buy (again :blush: ) picked up these 2 bewts......................... Always loved those 70s Enicar babes, remind me a bit of Ursula Andress These guys need no introduction......................................woof, woof.....................

A friend wants to get some of these, please PM me with artist name & tune, many, many thanks.

The Mecca early 1972, top three were............................. Free for all - Philip Mitchell Can't get enough - Johnny Sayles You don't want me no more - Major Lance But of course so were these......................................... You gonna make me love you - Sandi Sheldon Purple haze - Johnny Jones I'm standing - Rufus Lumley He who icks a rose - Carstairs etc etc etc

Better than Julian playing Alvin & Chipmunks version of 'Queen of fools'..................

Really sounded good