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BBC Radio 4 broadcast a show about Jackie Wilson and his "abandoned" son Bobby Brooks , who now performs as Bobby Brooks Wilson. The story of a boy in Care, who late in life discovered he was the great man's son. Thursday Radio 4 11.30 am

Ok...admission time. I stopped collecting Lamont's albums after " Bittersweet". Not a reflection on him, I tended to finish mid/ late 70s.. Any thoughts on his later work, any recommendations.?

Like others, I had tickets to see him on his tour a few years ago, but of course it was cancelled due to his health problems. A great shame.

If anybody on here is unfamiliar with his LP on The Originals...." California Sunset", please look out for it. One of the greatest albums ever. Here is another of his solo tracks...brilliant

One of favourites. RiP one of the greats

Glad to hear that Ivy Hunter still going strong

yes that would be it Thank you for posting

The first time I heard "Time" was when Edwin appeared on UK TV. I think it was Top of the Pops, but not certain about that. It was definitely a new release, and as such would have been a rare appearance. TMG 725. His 45 with Blinky, TMG 720 had been withdrawn several weeks earlier, and I assumed that EMI pulled that for "Time"....so Edwin could tour and promote it. If there are TOTP archives, it may be there. Vividly remember being shocked and surprised by this new track.....the clock intro very distinctive.

the go to site...well done and thanks for all the hard work that goes into projects like this

Here's a rare photo of Edwin, clearly just after he joined Motown, taken outside Hitsville.. The famous story is that he was on a UK tour , late 1966, and left Detroit as a Ric Tic / Golden World artist. During his UK tour, Golden World was sold to Motown, and as a result , when he returned to Detroit , he was now a Motown artist.

I think it was The Princess Club

Hi. It was a club near the old Bus Station, Chorlton Village, Barlow Moor Road I think. I remember there was a small crowd in.

enjoying this CD this evening, from swapping days 1YOU CAN SLOW ME DOWN (BUT YOU CAN'T STOP ME)LADY MAGIC & CALVIN HODGE 2LISTENCHERRY B & SOUND MAKERS 3LIVING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF ANOTHER GIRLPROMISES 4DON'T LET IT GET NEXT TO YOULEROY HUTSON 5I'M GETTING HIP (TO YOUR WAYS AND ACTIONS)UJIMA 6WHERE DID THESE SIGNS GOED TOWNSEND 7IF EVERY MAN HAD A WOMAN LIKE YOUBOBBY STORY 8P.O.PPROPHETS OF PEACE 9WHY DO WE HURT EACH OTHERDENNE & GOLD 10STOP STEPPIN' ON MY DREAMSJERRY BUTLER 11JOYLAMONT DOZIER 12YOU'RE TOO GOOD TO BE TRUECREATIVE SOURCE 13SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUTNEW LOVE LTD 14ALL THE HEAVEN A MAN REALLY NEEDSJOE TEX 15I'LL KEEP SEARCHINGBLACK SMOKE BAND 16MADISON (THE POWER SPIRIT)HANK CRAWFORD 17DO FOR YOUHEAVY 18GOT TO LET MY FEELINGS SHOWBLUEY 19WHO AM I FOOLINGDERRICK WASHINGTON 20FLY AWAYAUGUST HEAT BAND FEATURING ELTONEZ SALTON 21IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAMEBETTY WRIGHT & ROOTS

Saw Edwin several times. My first visit to The Wheel saw him perform . Seem to recall him passing through the football like crowd to get on stage , dressed in a Parker 😀. Must have been 1970. Met him backstage at Manchester Free Trade Hall....remember discussing his duet album with Blinky, which seemed to surprise him ( that I had it) and probably a change from the usual Ric Tic/NS conversations he no doubt had many times. Also, saw him in a club in Chorlton Manchester ( double bill with the re-assembled Elgins). Recall being in the gents WC when Edwin arrived in the next stall to me. Happy Days

in case you've never seen this....Agent Double O Soul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr-K7QJ5RQQ Willam Hart Delfonics Loving Him

Wow.what a tune...

I've was playing an old copy of a Hospital Radio show I did some years ago. This was a track that came as a bit of a surprise. Was it played at venues at all? Sounds like a Blaxploitation type of soundtrack. nice mellow tune

Slightly off topic, but found a "jukebox" ( is there such a thing these days))?), in a bar in Scarborough last week. Offered a " Northern Soul" selection, didn't expect a surprise, but delighted to find it included Eddie & Ernie, Sidra's Theme, Invitations, Lainie Hill,Kenny Lynch, Precisions ( Why Girl), amongst others...5 for £1. Really p***ed my mates off.

Always had time for this tune. Good group and Thom Bell magic

I think early days they had the band on one track...singer on the other. But they may not have retained these after the mixing and cutting. At some stage, the various tracks were retained, and increased technology meant that the various elements of the band could be separated onto different channels...as were vocals, lead backup etc

Things like Hitch Hike, Pride and joy are on Martha and Vandellas lp Dance Party....Marvin had these out in 63 same band tracks, so they must have been doing it in 63. I might have a dig and see if I can spot first use of a previous band track.

Regarding the above, it's usually a good idea to look at the date of a release ....say mid 1965....and think it terms of much of the recording going back several months, even say 1964, as the process of recording a 45, with band track, vocals, strings etc spread over several months. Often the singers were on tour and producers worked on the tracks for months and had to do vocals when they returned to Detroit..briefly. " I'll keep holding on ".....Hunter / Stevenson actually rushed to New York to get the vocals done ....they couldn't wait for such a normal process.

Paul Nixon. He was given extensive access to Motown's vaults and tape library. You'll see his name on many UK CDs. I think perhaps around 1963 they started using backing tracks and adding vocals ....the improvement in recording equipment allowed them to do this. Their main techie....Mike Mclean ...gave Motown a real improvement, moving over the years to 2, 4, 8, track etc. Re what makes an instrumental. " Festival Time" is a backing track with added sweetening....overdubs and strings of course. So a band track is just that, but as with the Mirwood things, do they become instrumentals with added overdubs and strings? Does a track have to be completely distanced to any vocal...who knows.

Yes If there was a plan to do so, probably overdubs/strings etc would be added. Earl van Dyke's "That Motown Sound" lp was the original backing track with EVD adding organ overdubs on top. Likewise, his " I can't help myself" I assume the original poster was hoping to hear the original track as opposed to a fresh arrangement. I very doubt that a fresh instrumental exists.