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I agree with this. I think records should be graded visually and then then the play should be described if it differs from the visual grade. However, though, I'm confused by when people says "plays VG" as the grading guides are not for play and that can mean different things to different people. I do sometimes say "plays NM" but i usually will go into detail about how it plays (e.g. crackle at certain points, background noise, etc.).

I have had the US copy with the flip several times. It is rare though.

i have the pre-delite red coach press of raw hamburgers. just random info that doesn't really help, sorry.

I apologize if I offended anyone, I'm not trying to. I just don't understand what's going on in this thread.

Hi. I'm looking for the Valentinos on clean 60007. I have it as a promo, looking for a stock copy with "oh how I miss you babe" on the flip. PM me with condition, asking price, or if you want to trade what sort of records you're looking for. Thanks in advance.

i think everyone lives in some sort of alternate reality from me, this sounds like an average subway performance to me

on this forum you have to interact later with the person who sold you the record. People are also very hotheaded. Often it's not worth complaining to the seller which will probably blow up then or later. I just write off the seller as a person to be avoided.

one sign of a polished record you usually can see the large scratches that look totally different, like dull and cut in half. i imagine that a lot of the uk people that have polished records didn't do it themselves but instead got the records from certain US dealers and were ignorant themselves as to what a polished record looks like.

I think it books high but there was this dealer strugging to get money on ebay, probably just because it's unknown and not because it's not rare. I didn't bid on it because I assumed the puerto rican thing was some kind of foreign press. I probably should have bid.

Several US dealers who were great before recently started polishing records. One directly admitted it when I confronted him and another (in the same city) denied it and said he would "report me to ebay" for my accusations, but it was the second polished record in a row that I had gotten from him and I had a record of me asking about it the first time so he was obviously lying.

What's sort of more interesting to me is when they don't reuse the backing track but actually recreate it, so it's a different track that sounds almost the same. They usually put their own writing credits on the new version. There is a bobby jones record on kack where the backing sounds just like a ruby andrews backing track but is totally redone. There is that Jay J Jones on V-tone vs. frankie beverly. There is the cheers "i've made up my mind" versus big jim's border crossing on zanzee

it would be interesting if it was the same group. the phila of soul record first came out on LA label phoenix. This record was produced by "ron roker" whoever that is. If it said wally roker I would assume LA and the same group.

also there are the people who just sign up here to sell who don't read the guidelines

I don't think an explicitly written grading scale would make everyone grade the same. People see what they want to see. Although an explicit list would at least determine whether there was an "EX" grade and whether VG is more like Poor.

this brings up another issue actually. play grading alone is totally BS. I have trashed records that play perfectly, that doesn't make the record NM. Although it's fine to note if the record plays differently than you would expect from the visual grade. But I want a visual grade of any record I buy.

I agree with Rod, most sellers here are actually more conservative graders than me (although I don't feel I'm an inaccurate grader). However, the few poor graders not only screw everyone but they charge the same prices for their grade as a conservative grader, so it really makes you feel ripped off..

the originals doing sunshine pop was amusing

these are some of the best things on the CDs. One of my favorite is the Newcomers - Betcha can't guess who

I have never ever seen that mckinley mitchell, it might not have been pressed. I might have the johnny little john, I have to look at my shelf, will try to check it out later today

I think the problem is that there seems to be two types of UK graders (at least on here). Those that are ultra-conservative and those that grade trashed records as VG or higher. There doesn't seem to be any in between. I feel like I am in between as I'm not the most conservative grader in the world but I don't grade trashed records as VG. I sold a record to someone here recently and they felt it was overgraded and we came to an agreement with a partial refund. But when I get trashed records from people here I usually avoid getting into anything with them (unless they are major records). I just avoid dealing with them in the future. Many people here are so hot-headed that they can't take any negative criticism without it blowing up into a big thing, often publicly. re: polished records, while some people are unscrupulous enough to polish their records, some people here may have gotten records from certain shady dealers in the states who polish their records, and they don't know what polishing is and what to look for, and they pass on the records as is. I find it's relatively rare for UK sellers to polish records. There are some australian sellers I've dealt with that do, I just avoid them now.

that fantastic nu-tymes record is fantastic...

Also, the first record I ever bought on here was graded "Ex-" and it was VG-. Didn't leave a good impression. The dude is always posting records for tons of money, I assume they're trashed.

I bought a "VG" record from someone here recently. I thought I was getting a great deal on a rare record.The labels were almost entirely ripped off. The vinyl was trashed. There was a huge warp and a crack. The record was like below poor. It did play through though.

a killer LP only track is the Monitors - Share the blame another good one is the marvelettes "you're the one for me bobby"

hi, not the same group. This group recorded two 45s on the Chicago Sandman label and one 45 on the Memphis J'Ace label. Thanks.