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any chance of audio of the third wish?

is it soul? is it Black? much of the label isn't soul.

The fact that numero reissued the lp and not Russell might be a bad thing for Russell (although I'm not sure as he may likely have lost money on it) but it was probably the best thing for the artist and label owner and people actually involved with the music. Numero is the best reissue label in that they go beyond simply licensing the material from the owner to actually tracking down the original artists, negotiating payment directly to the artists (even when they have no actual legal responsibility to do so and often in cases where the publisher would keep the money and not pay the artist), and fully document the artists stories with extensive liner notes and photos. I was there when Rob was trying to find Norman, I can't imagine any other label actually being persistent enough to contact an artist in prison via their limited prison phone calls, after they already negotiated the rights. Also, Numero has good distribution and contacts and probably get the original artists way more money than a tiny collector reissue. Finally, I can't believe the attitude of some people who contact artists for records -- they got ripped off back in the day, frequently get ripped off again by the person contacting them, and then the person who did it is secretive about it, effectively burying the history of the artist and ripping them off again. If someone contacts an artist, the least they could do is do an interview and write an article or even put up a webpage. Often collectors boast about finding people, without giving real info, boosting their ego and effectively ripping off the artist again of their legacy. At the least, even after someone contacts an artist and gets records from them, they could put a real reissue label in contact with the artist which could at least help really publicize their material as well as put real cash in their pocket. A few collectors who circulate original 45s for lots of cash does nothing for the original artist except to make their lack of success even more frustrating.

i doubt this is true, where is the british seller selling them? why would he want to wait until it was cheap? i believe the 100 story. anyways, I bought one at $900 when it just came out, I didn't know how many there really were but didn't want to gamble on losing it if there just were a few. if there's 100 it won't drop much lower and will go back up quickly. if there's more it will be the next clara hardy.

Hi. I'm looking for a copy of the debonairs on orr and the lintons on lock. Thanks.

There was a realistics that only cut 45s on UK labels (I think Epic records)? I think that's the group you're talking about. There was also the (ohio) sensations that had their cut 'please baby please' rereleased as the realistics on delite (where it became a hit the second time around). There was also the loma group. All unconnected as far as I know. Thanks for listening.

Hi. Today on my radio show I did an interesting interview with the soul group the Realistics. The Realistics were from the west side of Gary, IN, and were classmates with the Passions and Denice Chandler at Tolleston high school. The Realistics formed in 1967 when all five original members started singing together in ROTC class. The group soon started winning Gary talent shows and playing local juke joints in Indiana. After graduation the group continued to sing and produce their own shows, touring the Indiana college circuit as well as opening up for larger groups (such as the Spinners) in Gary. In 1971 the group was discovered by Otis Leavill at a show; Otis took them to Brunswick records. The group eventually signed with the label in 1972. By the time the group signed to Brunswick, the Realistics had gone down to four members -- the bass singer left, leaving the group with a more 70s-styled, falsetto harmony. In 1973 the group released their first single, "You're my sweet chocolate drops" b/w "How can I forget you". The record had an excellent philly-inspired falsetto harmony sound, and it got local airplay in Chicago and Gary. In 1974, the group released their second single, "I think I'll cry out loud" b/w "You and me". Despite also being another nice 70s falsetto sound, the track did not receive significant airplay. The group also did some background session work, singing behind Robert Dobyne (of the Artistics) on his solo record "Spent a lot of years loving you" as well as backing local Chicago artist Jean Shy. Due to a lack of promotion at Brunswick (which was filled with many talented artists that did not get a chance), the group broke up in the mid-70s. Brunwick released a longer, version of "How can I forget you" in 1977 on a 12" disco single. You can check out the interview on my webpage: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html thanks, Bob

I agree with you that people (not always correctly) assume that the rarer release is the first. But also, the previous number on the label also came out only on red text.

I actually don't know either version but searching on allmusic.com reveals that Van McCoy has a version on his own LP "the disco kid" from 1975. I hope that is the version you were thinking of.

it usually comes up beat up on ebay when it does comes up

it's strange how, depending on what's been imported to the uk, people have different perspectives. I guess like any record it's dried up now so the past doesn't matter anymore, but this used to be the only bronco title I would ever see, other than the versatiles, which I would see much less frequently.

i collect sweet soul, this seems like as good a forum as any, what are the other ones you want identified?

a US seller had one for much cheaper here a few months ago, they even bumped it as no one was responding.

the bronco record is pretty common, probably the most common title on the label.

evidence that red is first is that the PREVIOUS butlers record on Phila (it's jean wells backed by the butlers and charles earland, it's one number earlier) is red print.

that's also a new one on me, plus the youtube comments are also pretty funny

it totally blows my mind that california sweet soul bootleggers managed to somehow get a track from a british indie rock band from this decade.

i thought this thread would be about a mazda

the original label is demorris

the only real euro-pop-soul disco Chicago records I know about are the thunderfunk symphony records. What's funny is that a lot of real music people were a member of that group too, dianne cunningham was even a member.

This is a Chicago group, exactly the same band as the brothers of the ghetto who did that funk track rockin chair on ghetto. One of the members was later in loveship.

i've seen reservice on a lot of columbia / PIR records, I think it's when they press more copies at the time to further promote the record. I don't think it makes it a 'reissue' any more than any other label variation, etc., from the time of the original press, as at least one of the variations had to happen after a previous one.

isn't whispers - planets of life - soul clock a zodiac song?

at least it was cheap. I buy so many records on ebay and have to deal with so many shady sellers that I write off records like that and don't even leave negative feedback since if I get blocked, the seller is sure to have like my biggest want the next day. There's so many horrible sellers that it's often not if they are shady, but how shady they are, that determines whether I will deal with them and for what records and for how much.

teddie morrow - what's your sign (seibu) is a really nice sweet soul record loaded with astrology