Funky Si

Title: Curtis Mayfield - Aint No Love Lost - Curtom added by Funky Si on 24 Jun 2010 in the soul-clips refosoul category artist: curtis mayfield title: aint no love lost label: curtom label extra: no info entered audio/video: audio info posted: From the 1974 album "Got To Find A Way" link to reofosoul clip info page

Thanks Steve A budget-busting global 25% increase in the number of Patti Jo tracks out there - fantastic news! If it is Sceptre 1975/6, and given that its not a Curtis Mayfield production, then I wonder if this is actually a later session? Is there anything you can add about where the disc came from? Cheers Si

Ta Steve - cheered up an otherwise crap day! Is there any chance of putting up a clip of your acetate? That would be the event of the year for me! Si

Hi GrayM There are 3 worth looking at (apart from the many charity shops - including the specialist Oxfam books & music shop at the top of Micklegate). 2 are on Gillygate, which also has loads of nice arts, crafts & clothes shops ideal for the fairer sex. If you are standing at the north end of the Minster - at the end of High Petergate - you walk past the York Arms pub, down through Bootham Bar, and then right at the crossroads ahead of you, there is a record shop on the opposite side of the road called Relics, which sells mostly vinyl with a good soul and jazz selection. The other one is on the Bar Walls side of the road about two thirds of the way down - it has a whole room of vinyl at the back. The third shop is a little second hand store called Attic Records on a side street called Patrick Pool which is next to The Shambles. Its in the Attic of a hairdressers shop and is run by an enthusiastic young scooter boy called Alex Fox. Have a lovely day in England's finest city! Funky Si

And of course there are the magnificent versions by Curtis himself of ANNLL on the Got To Find A Way album and MMBIY on Sweet Exorcist, both from 1974.

Definitely - yes please! Is your track from the same sessions? And do you have any idea whether there are other recordings hidden away? Si

The preview clips are (to my ears, anyway) the two Sceptre sides plus three later recordings, not the Rich Tufo arrangement or Curtis production!

Cheers guys - it is a pleasure to be among such knowledgeable people. So there definitely are other recordings and masters somewhere. Here's a refosoul clip of Stay Away From Me: Patti Jo - Stay Away From Me - Sceptre

So how come there is an album mix of Patti Jo "Aint No Love Lost" (5:48 rather than the 3:18 single version)? Was that just done by Curtis to put on that disco gold album? It is definitely a longer mix rather than an edit - all sorts of drum solos and a guitar solo of sorts that aren't on the single. Its also a little faster than the single mix. Actually, I used to believe that Patti Jo didn't exist - just a speeded up version of Curtis himself, getting performers and writers royalties at the same time. The bongos and other high drums are almost too impossibly fast for a non-machine to play. But if you slow the single down, it is clearly a female voice - so I still think its a speeded up vocal. As all the tracks are arranged by Rich Tufo and Written/Produced by Curtis Mayfield, was this Curtis trying out a new arranger on another label before letting him loose on Curtom? Also, might there be further tapes in the Curtom vaults?

Ladies and gentlemen, please stand and salute .... CURTIS MAYFIELD - MOVE ON UP - CURTOM LP - Hush now child, and don't you cry Your folks might understand you by and by Move on up towards your destination You may find from time to time complications Bight your lip and take a trip Though there may be wet road ahead, you cannot slip So move on up and peace you will find Into the steeple of beautiful people where there's only one kind So hush now child and don't you cry Your folks might understand you by and by Just move on up and keep on wishing Remember your dreams are your only schemes so keep on pushing Take nothing less, in't no second best Do not obey, you must have your say, that you can past the test Just move on up, just move on up to a greater day With just a little faith, if you put your mind to it, you can surely do it Just move on up, move on up, what move on up Oh child but just a move on up, just move on up, move on up Just move on up, move on up, what move on up Oh child but just a move on up, just move on up, move on up

I found this here - the link up with the Packers was later. Dyke & the Blazers leader Arlester Christian was felled by a blaze of gunfire just as his mercurial career was poised to take off. There were only two LPs and the usual auxiliary 45s, but what a legacy it was! "Funky Broadway" was the hit single (more so for others who covered it, but his was the best), and everything Christian and the band did was great. Even his interpretations, from "It's Your Thing" to an awesomely funkified "You Are My Sunshine," instruct just how to do it. After Christian was shot to death in Phoenix, Arizona, another great soul-funk act arose like a phoenix. Christian's final sides were recorded with the guitar-bass-drums nucleus of the nascent Watts 103rd St. Rhythm Band. Led by Fred Smith, Watts began as the Soul Runners, a hip group similar to Booker T. & the MGs, with singles on a soul-food theme. The classic version of "Spreadin' Honey," for instance, appeared on both sides of the name transition and was remade by Watts on their first, underrated LP of cheery, adventurous, mod soul. But, not quite making it as either funk or soul jazz, the band sorely needed a charismatic vocalist to front the band, another Arlester Christian. Charles Wright, born 1940 in Clarksdale, Mississippi, brought to the band one of those unforgettable, hoarse, "dirty" voices, like that of Christian, Wilson Pickett, or Jackie Soul. Blessed with the intensity of fellow Californian Sly Stone, the ballad-crooning sweetness of a Marvin Gaye or Al Green, and the seemingly limitless range of a James Brown, Wright made records that stand the test of time. Although he has been called the founder and leader of the Watts group, it was more of a fortuitous merger. The disjointed debut album of Wright and the Watts band seems more like a collection of singles (part of it is live). Significantly, one instrumental could have been released as a Dyke & the Blazers single and no one would have known the difference. But other tracks, with Wright singing and otherwise carrying on, reveal the Dyke and the Blazers' legacy. Wright-Watts was to be the next, great, California soul-funk band. After five years, Wright left to make solo albums. (Watts, along with Bobby Womack, merged with the Packers and the Romeos to become War.) With the pressure off, Wright was free both to experiment, occasionally drifting into dubious areas of creativity, and to fall back on rehashing earlier Watts riffs. But a few moments, particularly his simple, personal homage to "Soul Train," count among the best things he ever did. The Wright Stuff!

So did the Soul Runners (who started out as the Packers? is that right?), eventually become War, who, according to the recent thread on them, developed from the Watts 103rd St Rhythm Band?

His father was Gil Heron - The Black Arrow see here. Gil jnr was 60 yesterday.

To quote the great man himself (from his new album) "I'm saying, if you gotta pay for the things that you do wrong, I got a big bill coming!" "If I hadn't been as eccentric, as obnoxious, as arrogant, as aggressive, as introspective, as selfish, I wouldn't be me, I wouldn't be who I am" How anyone can honestly claim that a man who says those things about himself on a record is a hypocrite?

DARROW FLETCHER - MY YOUNG MISERY - EDDIE KENDRICKS - GIRL YOU NEED A CHANGE OF MIND - BIG MAYBELLE - QUITTIN TIME - MARVIN GAYE - THE END OF OUR ROAD - ANN SEXTON - IT'S ALL OVER BUT THE SHOUTING - Its the growing sense of excitement in the Ann Sexton, the light at the end of the tunnel ..... the relief that something truly awful is about to end ..... just about my favourite record.

What's all the fuss about? Another copy has turned up in the UK and its only £10.99 (rather than the £6200 that this went for), and the Cairos is only £8.99. It's ebay item number 360213152027.

Pay to the Piper does it for me (and Finders Keepers if I'm allowed something un-northern)

Time to Get Down O'Jays - Time To Get Down - CBS UK -

How Sweet It Is This could easily be the best single ever made. What's Going On This is (almost certainly) the best album ever made - if Curtis had produced it, just imagine how good that would be ....

Check out Larry Grogan's Funky 16 Corners blog - among the 64 podcasts he has compiled (alongside the daily diet of top tracks), there are 10 hammond compilations. The most recent is here Funky 16 corners Hammond Madness, and the full podcast archive is here : Funky 16 Corners podcast archive. The tracklist for Hammond Madness is: Funky16Corners Radio v.59 - Hammond Madness! Dave Baby Cortez - Twine Time (Roulette) Georgie Fame - The In Crowd (Imperial) Jackie Ivory - Thank Heaven (Atco) Mark 3 Trio - Mr G (Downhill) Al Kooper - Soul Hoedown (UA) Bill Doggett - Fingertips (Columbia) Leon Haywood - A River's Invitation (Convoy) RD Stokes - Partying Groove (II Bros) Art Jerry Miller - Mod Strut (Enterprise) Doc Bagby - Mix It Up (VIM) Gene Ludwig - Sticks and Stones Pt1 (Atlantic) Hollis Floyd - Everything Is Everything (Silloh) Keith Mansfield Orchestra - Moanin; (Pronit) Richard Groove Holmes - 1-2-3 (Prestige) David Rockingham - Little Davie (Dee Dee) Odell Brown - Hard to Handle (Cadet) Bobby Emmons - Blue Organ (Hi)

"Their style is hard prog with a good use of organ" ? ? ?

You can listen to it via this link until Weds 7th Jan: Craig Charles on Radio 2

Just to further confuse those who accused me of being Craig last new year's eve .... On at the moment & its got me dancing! Last few tracks - Facts of Life, Jackie Wilson, Odetta, Betty Adams

Curtis Mayfield - Hard Times - Curtom LP Posted info: From the album There's No Place Like America Today.