Ever since I started collecting I've always flipped over records and played them at home. I was always interested in what was on the other side of records like Alexander Patton, Lee Roye, Patti Austin etc etc.......I just realized that whenever I buy a record that I either know or know but have never owned before I still play the flip side first. It's like

a) delaying the pleasure of hearing the side I bought it for, but mostly

B) the thought of hearing a song or tune I've never heard before.

Are there any other 'flip side first' people out there or am I just plain old crazy.

I'd like a second opinion!

Regards

Kev

Ever since I started collecting I've always flipped over records and played them at home. I was always interested in what was on the other side of records like Alexander Patton, Lee Roye, Patti Austin etc etc.......I just realized that whenever I buy a record that I either know or know but have never owned before I still play the flip side first. It's like

a) delaying the pleasure of hearing the side I bought it for, but mostly

B) the thought of hearing a song or tune I've never heard before.

Are there any other 'flip side first' people out there or am I just plain old crazy.

I'd like a second opinion!

Regards

Kev

every time

every time

Thanks Mike

I'm not alone in my craziness after all.

Kev

Should do it more.

I was after, for yonks, a copy of 'Special kind of love' by Otis Clay on Glades, not really scarce but rather tremendous, however most of the copies I did find had seen better days so I left 'em.

Anyway Mr Banks eventually supplied me with one for a few sheckles a good few years ago and lo and behold on an 'Otis Clay showcase night' in the record room it appears on the flip of 'The only way is up' which I had for 20 years. Doh.

Those old patches were right 'Check the flip side'

Jim

Thanks Mike

I'm not alone in my craziness after all.

Kev

I admit to a lot of the crazy stuff some get up to, but not on the open forum - usually done in a pm to the other strange folk

this one is quite tame so don't mind posting about this little quirk

Something I've always done Kev, used to feature the old 'Two For The Price Of One' ethic on my radio shows for Solar and Starpoint over the years and it became a regular feature.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Should do it more.

I was after, for yonks, a copy of 'Special kind of love' by Otis Clay on Glades, not really scarce but rather tremendous, however most of the copies I did find had seen better days so I left 'em.

Anyway Mr Banks eventually supplied me with one for a few sheckles a good few years ago and lo and behold on an 'Otis Clay showcase night' in the record room it appears on the flip of 'The only way is up' which I had for 20 years. Doh.

Those old patches were right 'Check the flip side'

Jim

Great song 'Special Kind of Love' I have one on President UK. What label is 'The Only Way Is UP' on on 45 Jim?

Kev

Thanks Mike

I'm not alone in my craziness after all.

Kev

check out the flip of Ray Godfrey Come And Get These Memories that I just posted in 'Soul Audio Source' - not a play out record but what a track

Are there any other 'flip side first' people out there or am I just plain old crazy.

I'd like a second opinion!

Regards

Kev

Yep, everytime.... curiosity always has got the better of me but only because I know what the side I've bought it for is like so would like to be surprised....

Sadly not surprised as often as I'd like to be because there's some really dire flips out there ....

Edited May 14, 200916 yr by vaultofsouler

Something I've always done Kev, used to feature the old 'Two For The Price Of One' ethic on my radio shows for Solar and Starpoint over the years and it became a regular feature.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

I know Mark I read your article 'The Ten Best b sides of all time' in Manifesto. One was 'Go On' Jimmy Mack flip of 'My World is on Fire' Great choice

but......I remember asking you to play it not long after at The Ritz..........did you play it.......did you buggery!

One good thing though....made me go out and buy my own copy.

Kev

I am surprised by how many people don't play the other side of records. Something I can't get my head around.

I never bothered with the flip years ago because it was a case of buying for the well known A side, but for the last few years i pretty much go through boxes of stuff i don't know and always play both sides. Quite often the flip is the best side but often both sides are good and it's two for the price of one.

I wish ebay sellers would post files of both sides as well. There are some cracking uptempo numbers on those sweet soul sides.

I love to flip

Edited May 14, 200916 yr by Matt Male

I never bothered with the flip years ago because it was a case of buying for the well known A side, but for the last few years i pretty much go through boxes of stuff i don't know and always play both sides. Quite often the flip is the best side but often both sides are good and it's two for the price of one.

I wish ebay sellers would post files of both sides as well. There are some cracking uptempo numbers on those sweet soul sides.

I love to flip

And vice versa Matt

Kev

Great song 'Special Kind of Love' I have one on President UK. What label is 'The Only Way Is UP' on on 45 Jim?

Kev

otis clays -the only way is up is on Echo records.

Check out the flip to Rose st john-mend my broken heart b/w If i had my way.Definately two for the price of one.

I know Mark I read your article 'The Ten Best b sides of all time' in Manifesto. One was 'Go On' Jimmy Mack flip of 'My World is on Fire' Great choice

but......I remember asking you to play it not long after at The Ritz..........did you play it.......did you buggery!

One good thing though....made me go out and buy my own copy.

Kev

Funny thing is Kev I never wrote that article you must be getting me mixed up with some other famous person lol oh and I've never owned a Jimmy Mack lol the plot thickens see you in the Prem mate next year, hope you do it pal, be affraid though be very affraid when the Chelsea boy's hit town...lol

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Funny thing is Kev I never wrote that article you must be getting me mixed up with some other famous person lol oh and I've never owned a Jimmy Mack lol the plot thickens see you in the Prem mate next year, hope you do it pal, be affraid though be very affraid when the Chelsea boy's hit town...lol

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Makes you wonder what Kev's been up to while playing his 'flips'

Ever since I started collecting I've always flipped over records and played them at home. I was always interested in what was on the other side of records like Alexander Patton, Lee Roye, Patti Austin etc etc.......I just realized that whenever I buy a record that I either know or know but have never owned before I still play the flip side first. It's like

a) delaying the pleasure of hearing the side I bought it for, but mostly

B) the thought of hearing a song or tune I've never heard before.

Are there any other 'flip side first' people out there or am I just plain old crazy.

I'd like a second opinion!

Regards

Kev

allways done this kev, had some great suprises

Bought a Miss Madeline single off someone on here recently for the Lonely girl side , and played the flip first Behave yourself for around 30 seconds and dismissed it straight away and then put The lonely girl side on.

Next day played the behave yourself side again all the way through and fell in love with it. A real masterpiece and the best thing I've heard for ages. Allways worth a few listens as there are some real b side gems.

'Only way is up' is on Echo records, which I just realised I also chawed off of Roger at an alldayer in down town Southampton ''back in the day ''.

Must be some sort of subliminal Elliott/ Banks /Clay vibe afoot.

Also the flip of the rather wonderful (and dreadfully overpriced) Delegates of Soul is a bit choice 'What a lucky guy I am', that gets the spins at home now.

Jim

Ever since I started collecting I've always flipped over records and played them at home. I was always interested in what was on the other side of records like Alexander Patton, Lee Roye, Patti Austin etc etc.......I just realized that whenever I buy a record that I either know or know but have never owned before I still play the flip side first. It's like

a) delaying the pleasure of hearing the side I bought it for, but mostly

B) the thought of hearing a song or tune I've never heard before.

Are there any other 'flip side first' people out there or am I just plain old crazy.

I'd like a second opinion!

Regards

Kev

You Ain't plain Crazy......your spot on matey....i feel and act the same way also....Infact some time ago i posted a list of double siders up to prove this point!!

Bought a Miss Madeline single off someone on here recently for the Lonely girl side , and played the flip first Behave yourself for around 30 seconds and dismissed it straight away and then put The lonely girl side on.

Next day played the behave yourself side again all the way through and fell in love with it. A real masterpiece and the best thing I've heard for ages. Allways worth a few listens as there are some real b side gems.

ooh ooh, yes , i love the behave side too. Great little ditty.

I am surprised by how many people don't play the other side of records. Something I can't get my head around.

I think people who don't check out ther flip sides, are MENTALISTS!!! and deserve a good

Funny thing is Kev I never wrote that article you must be getting me mixed up with some other famous person lol oh and I've never owned a Jimmy Mack lol the plot thickens see you in the Prem mate next year, hope you do it pal, be affraid though be very affraid when the Chelsea boy's hit town...lol

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Whoops-My apologies Mark -I must get my facts straight. I'm a very naughty boy. Now who was it??????

And thank you for not playing the record I didn't ask you for that you didn't have.

Chelsea? Mark. We're off to Wembley and we're not frightened of anyone.

Premiership Dead Ahead!

Kev

Edited May 15, 200916 yr by Kev Moore

Tell you what though it's a right bugger when you get a one-sided Demo!

Almost feel cheated.

'Only way is up' is on Echo records, which I just realised I also chawed off of Roger at an alldayer in down town Southampton ''back in the day ''.

Must be some sort of subliminal Elliott/ Banks /Clay vibe afoot.

Also the flip of the rather wonderful (and dreadfully overpriced) Delegates of Soul is a bit choice 'What a lucky guy I am', that gets the spins at home now.

Jim

Does that mean you have a spare Jim as the missus is after one. -Elliot/Banks/Clay that is.

Kev

Edited May 15, 200916 yr by Kev Moore

imagine my shock when one of my mates brought his records round in the early eighties, and had a copy of clifford curry, "whats the flip like?" dunno never played it WOW!!!!!

A spare???

It would be nice to know where they all are now as she's in the middle of a 'room moverround' in anticipation of the new arrival!! Got one on President as well .

Otis Clay a go go

The wife? Wheres my records??

Jim

Bought a Miss Madeline single off someone on here recently for the Lonely girl side , and played the flip first Behave yourself for around 30 seconds and dismissed it straight away and then put The lonely girl side on.

Next day played the behave yourself side again all the way through and fell in love with it. A real masterpiece and the best thing I've heard for ages. Allways worth a few listens as there are some real b side gems.

Hi Craig, Behave Yourself was covered up as Christine Cooper, and like many flipsides that came into vogue many years after the topside was popular, it remained covered for quite a long time - well at few months anyway

Cant tell you exactly when (I expect somebody with a set of old Black echoes can track it down, should they so wish, as I remember it being listed in several playlists I think) my guess would be when the more relaxed tempo, more soulful vocal sounds came to the fore - 1979-1985 ?? You rarely hear it played out these days, which is a shame as it's a blinding tune, great shout Craig ( always knew you had good taste ) From memory it was around the same time as Mel Britt " Just Sit & Cry" c/u, which was Jerry Tiffe on Scepter, reinvented as a new discovery by a certain dj about 20+ years later, cant remember his name

I think it sounds much better under the cover up name than the real one, but that's possibly another thread...

Flipside finding - One of my greatest joys ever was to sit with a newly arrived Soul Bowl 100 pack, carefully slice open one end and play through each record, first one side then the other, in the order they came out of the box, preferably without looking at the labels, finding the edge of the record by feel, being careful not to put the stylus down too far into the song. I'd then write the artist name and only the side I thought worth playing on a fresh cardboard sleeve and file them away. I'd stretch the process out to make it last as long as I could, because I couldn't afford to buy one very often. Funny thing is, donkeys years later when I play through them again I find my tastes have changed, and the side I wrote on the sleeve isn't the side I prefer now - and when you do find something you've owned for decades tucked away on a long forgotten flip it's like having free records - yippee !!

The packs I'm talking about were the 100 records for a tenner, think that might have been eleven quid odd including a very slow parcel post? (couldn't wait for them to arrive) It's no wonder every time these packs come up in a record bar conversation that the same quote is heard -

" I should have bought more of them packs "

Hi John

Thanks for that fascinating info.