Ian Dewhirst gives a Very Frank Interview gives a bit of an insite into Wigan & Cleethorpes during the mid 1970'sIan Dewhirst [Frank] Interview

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Edited August 10, 200520 yr by jonbuck

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from the horses mouth

Edited August 10, 200520 yr by jonbuck

Ian Dewhirst gives a Very Frank Interview  gives a bit orf an insite into Wigan & Cleethorpes during the mid 1970'sIan Dewhirst [Frank] Interview

Jon Buck

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Then again I Never Went To Cleethorpes To Busy Going to Wigan

JB

I went to both and beleve me Cleethorpes was better in every way

People seem to forget that Cleethorpes carried on past the pier right on up to the 80s, all be as an alldayer at the winter Gardens. It was run by the same people with the same DJs. and as such it must be one of the longest runing venues in England. and is still going

I went to both and beleve me Cleethorpes was better in every way

People seem to forget that Cleethorpes carried on past the pier right on up to the 80s, all be as an alldayer at the winter Gardens. It was run by the same people with the same DJs. and as such it must be one of the longest runing venues in England. and is still going

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I agree with you Miff, about Cleggy being the better....especially when the two venues ran together.

Like it says in the interview, you could walk from the Wintergardens to the Pier and hear the stomping long before you got there and then feel the pier vibrating as you walked along it.

The music was, as he says, "a melting pot" of what was played at the Casino and the Mecca....new release followed 60s record and we just accepted it and enjoyed it.

The only misleading thing about the interview is that it gives the impression that Cleggy took its lead from the other two, whereas in fact a lot of records were first broken there.

After all, one of the DJs worked at Soul Bowl....he had access to the imports first!

Cleethorpes influenced the music policy of many a venue down the Eastern side of the country and the musical taste of a hell of a lot soulies.

I agree with you Miff, about Cleggy being the better....especially when the two venues ran together.

Like it says in the interview, you could walk from the Wintergardens to the Pier and hear the stomping long before you got there and then feel the pier vibrating as you walked along it.

The music was, as he says, "a melting pot" of what was played at the Casino and the Mecca....new release followed 60s record and we just accepted it and enjoyed it.

The only misleading thing about the interview is that it gives the impression that Cleggy took its lead from the other two, whereas in fact a lot of records were first broken there.

After all, one of the DJs worked at Soul Bowl....he had access to the imports first!

Cleethorpes influenced the music policy of many a venue down the Eastern side of the country and the musical taste of a hell of a lot soulies.

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Spot on Dave. Agree wholehearedly(Tractor still broken BTW ?)

All over the north, soulies will be sticking pins in wax dolls of you and Miff though

Nurse, NURSE !

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Great interviews on this site Jon - many thanks for the link .I only went to Wigan as well , thogh Wigan was noticably quieter went Cleethorpes was on wasn't it ? See you friday ,Best , Eddie .

i went to both and of the two i would say cleethorpes was the better used to love that walk along th efront to the wintergardens prefered the winter gardens as a venue to the pier though, only problem wa sin 70's it took a long time to get there from manchester as no motorway after leeds,

think i prefered cleethorpes because i was a blackpool mecca fan.

mark

Spot on Dave. Agree wholehearedly(Tractor still broken BTW ?)

All over the north, soulies will be sticking pins in wax dolls of you and Miff though

Nurse, NURSE ! 

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Thanks Steve!

Nearly mended

Not just the North mate.....West Midlands as well?

Might get away with it more lightly than if it was in All About The Soul.

Now...MUST be almost time for your nap....

wigan v cleggy

i attended both venues and found wigan great especially mr Ms

but cleethorpes wintergardens was an excellent place to visit.

and the test of time as proved this with the wintergardens still going strong.

i attended the last week-ender at the beachcomber and stay at the same guest house every year.

the owners informed me that the owners of the wintergardens are thinking of selling it to property developers.

if this happens this will be the last real northern soul venue from our past to go.

what an end to a to a great place with so much soul history

All over the north, soulies will be sticking pins in wax dolls of you and Miff though

Nurse, NURSE ! 

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Yea you are probley right Ime not knocking Wigan as i did enjoy my nights there

We mainly went to the Oldies nighters on the friday night Then on to a nighter somewhere else Finish off at the dayer at Cleethorpes, Just found Wigan not to be the frendlist venue to go to and it was a shit hole. Three of us used to go regulerly

in a Austin Allegro Come rain sun or snow, Me a lad called Mark Smith ,Shep & Andy Fersman, Also Seems to me that the people from that area didnt seem to travel very far from home

Now thats opened up the floodgates i'll get a right slaging off now

wigan v cleggy

i attended both venues and found wigan great especially mr Ms

but cleethorpes wintergardens was an excellent place to visit.

and the test of time as proved this with the wintergardens still going strong.

i attended the last week-ender at the beachcomber and stay at the same guest house every year.

the owners informed me that the owners of the wintergardens are thinking of selling it to property developers.

if this happens this will be the last real northern soul venue from our past to go.

what an end to a to a great place with so much soul history

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This is true, The want to Knock it down and put up some new very expensive flats there instead, The way the planing is going they will get there way (Money Talks) though it is being forght all the way by the local residents and I carnt see it happening just yet, They are susposed to be keeping a dance hall in the development but I think its just a ploy to get through planing permision and will then get droped :graywanker:

Went to cleethorpes twice but did,nt rate it not a patch on wigan for me,the fact that wigan was on the door step and im a stomper lover probably had a lot to do with it.Miff mentions its longevity twisted wheel still running every month and going great guns,i know it stopped for years but nice to see the real home of northern going well again.

Dave, you want to try and get a copy of 'so is the sun' with the cleethorpes anniversary sticker on it.

Cleggy - vs- Wigan, depends what you judge on. Wigan had more folks through the gates, but played more pop music. Every venue was important, and these two very important. Where is volume 2 and 3 of the cleethorpes story CD, cant be due to lack of tunes.

Ed

Dave, you want to try and get a copy of 'so is the sun' with the cleethorpes anniversary sticker on it.

Cleggy - vs- Wigan, depends what you judge on. Wigan had more folks through the gates, but played more pop music. Every venue was important, and these two very important. Where is volume 2 and 3 of the cleethorpes story CD, cant be due to lack of tunes.

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Cleethorpes everytime, these are the venues I was brought up on, the pier and the winter gardens.

Used to swear that everytime a stomper was played on the pier, that floor would go through and we would end up in the sea....

Force ten gale blowing as we walked down to the hall, with a full circle skirt on was rather refreshing........

Mary Chapman, Chris Dalton, Rick Scott, Rick Todd.......

I can remember Soul Sam "breaking" Casanova by coffee at the gardens in the early 8ts and a few weeks later it was in the charts.

I was under the impression that the contracters whom have the job of redesigning the gardens were going to leave the main ballroom and downstairs complete, instead of just knocking it all down... I hope that they haven't changed their minds again.

Dave, you want to try and get a copy of 'so is the sun' with the cleethorpes anniversary sticker on it.

Cleggy - vs- Wigan, depends what you judge on. Wigan had more folks through the gates, but played more pop music. Every venue was important, and these two very important. Where is volume 2 and 3 of the cleethorpes story CD, cant be due to lack of tunes.

Ed

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I changed the avatar to see if anybody would say what you've said mate

I had the SOITS from the first anniversary, but sadly gave it away in the 80's

Cleethorpes everytime, these are the venues I was brought up on, the pier and the winter gardens.

Used to swear that everytime a stomper was played on the pier, that floor would go through and we would end up in the sea....

Force ten gale blowing as we walked down to the hall, with a full circle skirt on was rather refreshing........

Mary Chapman, Chris Dalton, Rick Scott, Rick Todd.......

I can remember Soul Sam "breaking" Casanova by coffee at the gardens in the early 8ts and a few weeks later it was in the charts.

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I was a regular at these nights 2

learned me 'modern' stuff here

some gr8 nites

Presume ya mean the like sof black nasty and the skull snaps, stanley woodruff etc etc...

And the mighty crow, very very, funky for its time, never used to like it much, but when married my hubby that was his fave back then and it sort of grows on ya after bout twenty odd years when "the boxes" come out for an airing and is one of the first on the decks....

Spooky and Sues "I've got the need" is the epitomy of the Cleethorpes sound for me....

Remember gettin on the coach at the Barbican in Lincoln and picking up peeps in the villages on the way to Cleethorpes....

Talk of the north........ Classics....

When we go to the all dayers at the gardens its still got that buzz for me... and takes me back to when I was a fifteen year old again....

Hope it stays and they don't pull it down, its got too many of my memories in there......

Presume ya mean the like sof black nasty and the skull snaps, stanley woodruff etc etc...

Hope it stays and they don't pull it down, its got too many of my memories in there......

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To true,Its seems to be in all my lifes good points to some extent or another not just soul. The Bags ball on a wensday night is famous around the country

Some goods act have been on over the years, it caters for all types from Punk Bands to Afternoon tea dances all down to good open minded management

Long may it live and never die it would be a massive loss to Cleethorpes and its resedents young and old.

Where is volume 2 and 3 of the cleethorpes story CD, cant be due to lack of tunes.

Ed

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Probably because when compiling cd's it made more financial sense to call them Wigan sounds

Think back to some of the tracks introduced by Poke, Manship, Frank, Ginger, Sam etc that were first played on the east coast.

Is it any coincidence that Searling's best records were played 1978-1981 after Poke had stopped d.j'ing at the niters ???

Cleethorpes was always my favourite venue, music was second to none.....