does anyone know anything about this group? it's not the motown group is it? it sounds like a White group to me, does anyone agree? Thanks.

Are we talking about "Ain't No Sun". I can see where you are coming from but does sound a bit more black than white to these cloth ears, not sure. Soul Harmony has them down as the same group?

I know these guys, sort of. They were a white 'greaser' band from the Cleveland suburbs. Tom Baker, whose name shows up on some Cleveland soul 45s as arranger (and also a musical collaborator for the infamous "Sign of Aquarius" movie), was the leader of the band (yep, he's white). They also seem to have been (or some of the members played on) the 45 by the Magic Tymes on Mala. The 45 was recorded at Audio Recording in Cleveland and released twice - the first press is the gold label, pressed at Pama in Cleveland, the black label Ter Mar pressing is second. I dunno what else you'd want to know, but ask away...

I know these guys, sort of. They were a white 'greaser' band from the Cleveland suburbs. Tom Baker, whose name shows up on some Cleveland soul 45s as arranger (and also a musical collaborator for the infamous "Sign of Aquarius" movie), was the leader of the band (yep, he's white). They also seem to have been (or some of the members played on) the 45 by the Magic Tymes on Mala. The 45 was recorded at Audio Recording in Cleveland and released twice - the first press is the gold label, pressed at Pama in Cleveland, the black label Ter Mar pressing is second. I dunno what else you'd want to know, but ask away...

their names? great info as usual Any connection to the Fabulous Originals (Cincinnati, Ohio group) on Jewel?

I don't have all the names handy....I will over the next few months. The only guy that I talked to from the band was the drummer and his memory was unclear, he played drums in at least 5 different bands in the 1960s. Tom Baker moved to Michigan in the early 70s and devoted himself to Christian music. No connection to the Fab Originals (they were black and from Dayton, a good 200 miles away).

Other bands from this 'scene' were the Naturals on Cle-O, the Hustlers on Fascination, the Cellmates (one super rare 45) and numerous others. There's also a rare record by the Enchantments on Doyle that's 'misquoted' as a soul record, it's actually a greaser pop harmony record (good in that style, but not soul, Northern or otherwise).

- George

thanks for your help. i suspected it was ohio (usually see it for sale from ohio sellers) but never knew for sure.

Great info guys. Top Notch! ANSSYBG is one of my favourite songs of all time and I have lots of versions. The Suspension 45 was given to be by my pal Karl Heard and is in my top 3 versions. Always wondered who they were and where they were from? Thanks for posting. Exactly why I still visit SS.

Regards,

Dave