As mentioned, i have a record which i bought a while back, which is a great RnB/mod/northern type dancer. Have asked people if they know it by sound , which draws a blank. So am asking all you matrix number and pressing plant buffs for info on here.

It has a cross stamp...which im hoping will give info on pressing plant... But only hand etched numbers RA 11 1653. Any experts shed any light for me please.

Mike.

There are other clues, a glue residue showing lines vertically 2 to mil apart vertically, off two horizontal lines cutting through centre an inch apart....still a mystery to me though.

Posting a sound clip would give you a better chance

Posting a sound clip would give you a better chance

Im not permitted to load the kind of file i have apparently...I'll be damned if i know what to do past there. Alterrnatively if you go to; "down in the basement r&b and soul club" on facebook.. i'll post it up there.

I know its a lot of trouble, but i'm a bit technophobic.

Turns out it is a Shelley products pressing out of New york. Who also had the problems with Adhesive. Any clues to RA etched into run out appreciated. Or links to related plant please!!

Im not permitted to load the kind of file i have apparently...I'll be damned if i know what to do past there. Alterrnatively if you go to; "down in the basement r&b and soul club" on facebook.. i'll post it up there.

I know its a lot of trouble, but i'm a bit technophobic.

e-mail me the file and I'll get it on here for you

chalky.soul@gmail.com

Sent it through Chalky!!

I'll take it down when sorted....

https://soundcloud.com/chalkster/dunno-baby-uptight

anyone know it?..............have any info.

Flame N King on Raines, maybe?

Cigar to Matt, here's the details from the man who liked the pressing plant so much that he married the daughter.

"I think I may have found the answer:

Raines Record Inc. 181 The Flame 'n' King Up Tight/I Got Nobody

It was a New York label based at 429 E. 102nd St in East Harlem.

As with the in-house Golden Crest/Shelley singles, the master number seems to indicate a mastering date. In this case, RA 11 1 65-3 would appear to indicate a Nov. 1, 1965 release - around the time of the "Uptight" craze; RA of course = Raines.

From Bob McGrath's "The R&B Indies," Raines 370, also by Flame 'n' King (the release numbers are all over the place) had similar matrix numbers: RA-296691-1/2. i.e., mastering in Feb. 9, 1966. In fact, the "Tell Me" side is on YouTube at

Now, whether the recordings were cut at the Shelley Products, Huntington Station, Long Island studio or just mastered and pressed there, I can't say.

Re. the "falling off" labels, as I said in my book, "Record Makers and Breakers," I tackled the pressing plant manager on this subject in 2000, but he was oblivious to the problem. Therefore, I can only assume the labels were fine when the singles were released but the ravages of time have not been kind to the label glue!

I believe Flame 'n' King is Oscar Richardson Jr.

John Broven

Well thank you gents.....Very chuffed you've saved me a load of work!!! Glad to put an artist to the tune now thanks. Now we know who it is, is it rare? Or are there plenty of them!!

A very grateful Mike

This went for £30 odd quid a couple of years back