Well folks this one as an example..Jeanne & The Vallamonts on Maximum 'Change My Destiny / Stepping Over Heartbreak'......listed in one of John Manships'old guides with FAKE ISSUE in bold print alongside..These questions may have been asked before

1 : Is this a genuine Artist / Artists ?

2: What is its' origin ?

3: What do you good folks think of it as a tune...production etc ?

4: If it's tailor- made for the market / scene should it be dismissed?

Plenty of other examples i'm sure !!

Lastly can anyone provide a sound-clip as I can't load MP3s at present

Many Thanks

Chris Morgan

Edited July 11, 200619 yr by bearsoul

Well folks this one as an example..Jeanne & The Vallamonts on Maximum 'Change My Destiny / Stepping Over Heartbreak'......listed in one of John Manships'old guides with FAKE ISSUE in bold print alongside..These questions may have been asked before

1 : Is this a genuine Artist / Artists ?

2: What is its' origin ?

3: What do you good folks think of it as a tune...production etc ?

4: If it's tailor- made for the market / scene should it be dismissed?

Plenty of other examples i'm sure !!

Lastly can anyone provide a sound-clip as I can't load MP3s at present

Many Thanks

Chris Morgan

Will take pelters for this, but I happen to think Stepping Over Heartbreak is great , its obviously an Ian Levine effort and when I bought my copy about 5 years ago Steve Jeffries told me that Levine had about 5 or 6 singles out at the same time as this, although his name is not on it his sound is all over it, also Steve said it was from the Carolinas , hugely underrated record imo, and supposed to be in limited quantity, can't really remember the full story tho

Lenny

Will take pelters for this, but I happen to think Stepping Over Heartbreak is great , its obviously an Ian Levine effort and when I bought my copy about 5 years ago Steve Jeffries told me that Levine had about 5 or 6 singles out at the same time as this, although his name is not on it his sound is all over it, also Steve said it was from the Carolinas , hugely underrated record imo, and supposed to be in limited quantity, can't really remember the full story tho

Lenny

Cheers Lenny had a feeling it was Mr Levine and your not alone I think it's BLOODY GOOD Anyone else more details and a Sound-Clip please

Chris sorry can not do sounds but i will bring you a copy to the greatstone on sat in exchange for a tape if thats ok-------------jo

Chris sorry can not do sounds but i will bring you a copy to the greatstone on sat in exchange for a tape if thats ok-------------jo

HI Jo...I've got a copy but thanks I'll do you a tape though. I can't do the MP3 thing right now but was keen to see what folks thought about this particular trak...and 'READY-MADES' in general

Well folks this one as an example..Jeanne & The Vallamonts on Maximum 'Change My Destiny / Stepping Over Heartbreak'......listed in one of John Manships'old guides with FAKE ISSUE in bold print alongside..These questions may have been asked before

1 : Is this a genuine Artist / Artists ?

2: What is its' origin ?

3: What do you good folks think of it as a tune...production etc ?

4: If it's tailor- made for the market / scene should it be dismissed?

Plenty of other examples i'm sure !!

Lastly can anyone provide a sound-clip as I can't load MP3s at present

Many Thanks

Chris Morgan

I really like " Change my destiny " as well Chris , If they're good enough then play them I say , I remember asking Ian if this was one of his productions and he denied it at the time .Wish he'd been more honest , though I guess he was trying to prove the point that he could make genuine records and get them played , a good record is a good record IMO , whoever produced it and whatever year is on the label .Best Wishes ,Eddie

I really like " Change my destiny " as well Chris , If they're good enough then play them I say , I remember asking Ian if this was one of his productions and he denied it at the time .Wish he'd been more honest , though I guess he was trying to prove the point that he could make genuine records and get them played , a good record is a good record IMO , whoever produced it and whatever year is on the label .Best Wishes ,Eddie

I agree Eddie.........if I play it though will I be chased out of Town

I agree Eddie.........if I play it though will I be chased out of Town

If you do you could always join me on "The Wrong Side Of Town".

Cheers

Phil

If you do you could always join me on "The Wrong Side Of Town".

Cheers

Phil

I BELIEVE I MIGHT HAVE TO PHIL IF I DO PLAY IT

SIMON COWELL RATES IT

LOOKING FORWARD TO JOINING YOU AT ' PRESENCE FM'

ON 'THE RIGHT SIDE OF TOWN' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHEERS

CHRIS

I BELIEVE I MIGHT HAVE TO PHIL IF I DO PLAY IT

SIMON COWELL RATES IT

LOOKING FORWARD TO JOINING YOU AT ' PRESENCE FM'

ON 'THE RIGHT SIDE OF TOWN' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHEERS

CHRIS

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF TUNES TAILOR-MADE THEN PHIL??

STILL AFTER AN MP3 IF ANYONES GOT THIS TRACK..CHEERS

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF TUNES TAILOR-MADE THEN PHIL??

Well I think that all tunes are tailor-made. Tailor-made for a particular market at a particular time. All the great, wonderful and varied music that we listen to on our scene were made with the soul (sic) intention of appealing to potential music buyers at that time. They were (mostly) not made just for our scene.

So I don't have a problem with 'em. Good music is good music, and bad music is bad music. And it's all in the ear of the beholder anyway.

I've got a tailor made that I did. I'll post it up one day. It's not northern or soul at all but does have northern roots, and sold 3000 copies in Benelux!

Cheers

Phil

Well I think that all tunes are tailor-made. Tailor-made for a particular market at a particular time. All the great, wonderful and varied music that we listen to on our scene were made with the soul (sic) intention of appealing to potential music buyers at that time. They were (mostly) not made just for our scene.

So I don't have a problem with 'em. Good music is good music, and bad music is bad music. And it's all in the ear of the beholder anyway.

I've got a tailor made that I did. I'll post it up one day. It's not northern or soul at all but does have northern roots, and sold 3000 copies in Benelux!

Cheers

Phil

I AGREE WITH YOUR OBSERVATIONS PHIL AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE 'BENELUX' TUNE AS I LISTEN TO OTHER TYPES OF MUSIC....DARE I SAY IT

I AGREE WITH YOUR OBSERVATIONS PHIL AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE 'BENELUX' TUNE AS I LISTEN TO OTHER TYPES OF MUSIC....DARE I SAY IT

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how do ian tailor mades of the 70's live up to today?

lj johnson - dancing on the edge of a dream

doris jones - hes so irreplaceable

evelyn thomas - doomsday etc

I AGREE WITH YOUR OBSERVATIONS PHIL AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE 'BENELUX' TUNE AS I LISTEN TO OTHER TYPES OF MUSIC....DARE I SAY IT

Here you go. Cheesy popcorn dance music.

Note to moderator. Do not remove - this is my own copyrighted work.

Phil

Beat_Of_The_Year.mp3

I have about 300 12" of this left. Anyone?

Here you go. Cheesy popcorn dance music.

Note to moderator. Do not remove - this is my own copyrighted work.

Phil

THA'S BIZZARE PHIL

I have about 300 12" of this left. Anyone?

COULD SPAWN A WHOLE NEW OFF-SHOOT...DON'T KNOW WHAT OF THOUGH

Here you go. Cheesy popcorn dance music.

Note to moderator. Do not remove - this is my own copyrighted work.

O my god

Thats sliced tomatos again a'nt it, come back Fat boy slim all is forgiven

Phil

Who you calling slim ?

COULD SPAWN A WHOLE NEW OFF-SHOOT...DON'T KNOW WHAT OF THOUGH

I'm working on a jungle vbersion of Gary Lewis & The Playboys as I write this

And just finished a bhangra / grime version of Ain't No Soul

Phil

I'm working on a jungle vbersion of Gary Lewis & The Playboys as I write this

And just finished a bhangra / grime version of Ain't No Soul

Phil

[/quote] DOES IAN KNOW YOUR BECOMING A THREAT IN THE PRODUCTION STAKES EH???

CAN'T WAIT FOR YOUR CHRISTMAS SINGLE

Edited July 11, 200619 yr by bearsoul

I have about 300 12" of this left. Anyone?

Two bob each,you just might get rid of a couple,Phil

Two bob each,you just might get rid of a couple,Phil

TOP B-SIDE THOUGH KEN

I agree Eddie.........if I play it though will I be chased out of Town

chris i have played it and alan pollard has played it think tony may also have played it at the greatstone. i like it good record and a good attempt for ian levine,

same as eddie on this when i asked him he said it was not one of his.

mark

QUOTE(mark.b @ Jul 11 2006, 11:24 PM) link

chris i have played it and alan pollard has played it think tony may also have played it at the greatstone. i like it good record and a good attempt for ian levine,

same as eddie on this when i asked him he said it was not one of his.

mark

Edited July 11, 200619 yr by bearsoul

QUOTE(mark.b @ Jul 11 2006, 11:24 PM) link

chris i have played it and alan pollard has played it think tony may also have played it at the greatstone. i like it good record and a good attempt for ian levine,

same as eddie on this when i asked him he said it was not one of his.

mark

THOUGHT I'D HEARD IT OUT...BEGINNING TO THINK I WAS CRACKERS....DON'T ANSWER THAT........YOU GOT AN MP3 OF IT YOU CAN POST MARK?

CHRIS

no

mark

no

mark

[/quote] SOMEONE MUST KNOW THE ORIGIN OF IT COME ON FOLKS !!!!!!

I was probably one of the first few people to own and play this record by Jeanne and The Vallamonts, I bought it off a very well known dealer for ALOT of hard earned cash and I mean ALOT considering how much it eventually became worth, I bought it about 7 maybe 8 years ago and I played alot in my sets and I still love the record immensley, it wasn't until one day I decided to play the b side "Steeping over heartbreak" that I realised that Ian Levine had something to do with it, this side has Ian Levines production stamped all over it whereas I don't personally think "Change my destiny" has any of Levine's trademark on it.

I suppose part of collecting is making mistakes and I have made many but i consider this my biggest financial mistake but I wouldn't be without the recotrd I just wish the dealer had sold it me for the correct price.

I still own the record although I don't feature it anymore in my sets but that is not because of the mystery surrounding it it's just that my set has moved on and anyone who knows me will know that I try a change my sets as much as I can.

At one stage about 5 years ago I hit a raw nerve as I think I got pretty close to the truth behind where the record originated from but I can't discuss that anymore as the parties involved are on this forum and I had some rediculous threats made to me and all I really want to do is enjoy the music and if folk can't be honest about that then there's not much hope.

So with that lets enjoy "Change my destiny" for what it is and that is it's a brilliant record regardless of where or who recorded, booted, produced, wrote or sang it.

I know a few who will immediately disagree with this but I feel there judgement is clouded by who supposedly made it and there disliking of this person.

Regards

Alan

I was probably one of the first few people to own and play this record by Jeanne and The Vallamonts, I bought it off a very well known dealer for ALOT of hard earned cash and I mean ALOT considering how much it eventually became worth, I bought it about 7 maybe 8 years ago and I played alot in my sets and I still love the record immensley, it wasn't until one day I decided to play the b side "Steeping over heartbreak" that I realised that Ian Levine had something to do with it, this side has Ian Levines production stamped all over it whereas I don't personally think "Change my destiny" has any of Levine's trademark on it.

I suppose part of collecting is making mistakes and I have made many but i consider this my biggest financial mistake but I wouldn't be without the recotrd I just wish the dealer had sold it me for the correct price.

I still own the record although I don't feature it anymore in my sets but that is not because of the mystery surrounding it it's just that my set has moved on and anyone who knows me will know that I try a change my sets as much as I can.

At one stage about 5 years ago I hit a raw nerve as I think I got pretty close to the truth behind where the record originated from but I can't discuss that anymore as the parties involved are on this forum and I had some rediculous threats made to me and all I really want to do is enjoy the music and if folk can't be honest about that then there's not much hope.

So with that lets enjoy "Change my destiny" for what it is and that is it's a brilliant record regardless of where or who recorded, booted, produced, wrote or sang it.

I know a few who will immediately disagree with this but I feel there judgement is clouded by who supposedly made it and there disliking of this person.

Regards

Alan

CHEERS ALAN...THANKYOU, I RECKON THAT'S AS CLOSE AS WE'RE GOING TO GET ON THIS ONE..THINK IT'S A TOP RECORD TOO !!!

CHRIS M

Edited July 12, 200619 yr by bearsoul