Does anyone have any information about this group -- where they are from, members, etc.? Also, I would like to know if anyone can actually confirm that the Congress group and Big Top group are the same. They are listed together in the soul harmony singles book and are from around the same time. But the big top group clearly has at least one woman singing and it doesn't sound like any women are on the VIP record. Also, the VIP record is more "white" sounding to me (still a nice cut). There are no common names across the VIP / Big Top records but that doesn't mean much because the Big Top records are all Baum/Kaye names so they don't have the names of any real group members. you pulled a fast one / flashback got play here in Chicago (and Honey and the Bees even covered "you pulled a fast one"). Thanks.

Congress "Strange little girl" VIP's certainly white. These are they, methinks.

Congress "Strange little girl" VIP's certainly white. These are they, methinks.

They are English Trev, from Carlisle I think. They joined with some from the Ramrods and went on to become Spooky Tooth

Edited October 5, 200717 yr by chalky

VIPs came out on UK Island....US Congress picked up a fair few British recordings.....theres a label listing on SoulTalk.....

Edited October 5, 200717 yr by platters 81

Does anyone have any information about this group -- where they are from, members, etc.? Also, I would like to know if anyone can actually confirm that the Congress group and Big Top group are the same. They are listed together in the soul harmony singles book and are from around the same time. But the big top group clearly has at least one woman singing and it doesn't sound like any women are on the VIP record. Also, the VIP record is more "white" sounding to me (still a nice cut). There are no common names across the VIP / Big Top records but that doesn't mean much because the Big Top records are all Baum/Kaye names so they don't have the names of any real group members. you pulled a fast one / flashback got play here in Chicago (and Honey and the Bees even covered "you pulled a fast one"). Thanks.

On Big Top: Fred Warner and Larry "Dub" Lawrence, both formerly of the R&B group The Fantastics on R.C.A. and United Artists and later of The Tradewinds; Jackie Carter (female lead), William Nicholson, Horace Williams.

On Big Top: Fred Warner and Larry "Dub" Lawrence, both formerly of the R&B group The Fantastics on R.C.A. and United Artists and later of The Tradewinds; Jackie Carter (female lead), William Nicholson, Horace Williams.

Thanks, I just noticed that the Big Top group members were in the soul harmony singles book.

Are you guys totally sure that the congress group is the UK VIPs? I looked at allmusic.com and there is a CD called "the complete VIPs" that is 28 tracks and supposedly includes all their records from all labels. It doesn't include either congress side. Also, none of the names listed as the group members match the names on the record, which are Jay Darrow and a last name Gluck. Thanks.

Thanks, I just noticed that the Big Top group members were in the soul harmony singles book.

Are you guys totally sure that the congress group is the UK VIPs? I looked at allmusic.com and there is a CD called "the complete VIPs" that is 28 tracks and supposedly includes all their records from all labels. It doesn't include either congress side. Also, none of the names listed as the group members match the names on the record, which are Jay Darrow and a last name Gluck. Thanks.

I personally don't think they are the same Boba. "Gluck" is David Gluck who along with Darrow were the Daruck Production team.

Anyone got a decent readable scan of Strange Little Girl?

Edited October 6, 200717 yr by chalky

some info on the UK VIPs here

https://www.spookytooth.sk/bio.html it looks like your right boba......the Congress group are a different outfit...

Edited October 6, 200717 yr by platters 81

I personally don't think they are the same Boba. "Gluck" is David Gluck who along with Darrow were the Daruck Production team.

Anyone got a decent readable scan of Strange Little Girl?

Strange side Darrow Gluck A Darrow Production

My Girl side Jay Darrow " " "

Strange side Darrow Gluck A Darrow Production

My Girl side Jay Darrow " " "

Google throws up a Jay Darrow 45 on Keen: Girl in my Dreams / I Love that Girl 8-2124 from 1960.

Same guy maybe? And then there's this:

and finally, I saw this on a Japanese list:

HARBINGERS APRIL COME SHE WILL / THE BRIDGE

1968 NICE MELODIC SOFT ROCK.PAUL SIMON.FROM THE MOTION PICTURE"THE GRADUATE" FLIP J.GLUCK.PROD BY JAY DARROW.ARR BY ARNOLD GOLAND

COLUMBIA PROMO