Sebastian

Capitols - Day By Day / Little Things - GATEWAY 721 From 1964.

Motown often gave the findished recording to a couple of different producers/masterers and pressed up small amount of copies and gave to radio DJs, then watched which version it was that started to take off and then they went with that one. For example there are different mixes of "This Old Heart Of Mine", "Heat Wave" etc. some of them with more bass, some with more tambourines etc. I guess this is what happened with the Jimmy Ruffin tune as well. Sometimes they rush-produced a tune to get it out on the radio, then perfected it for the proper national release. etc. etc. etc.

It's sure is a different mix and drenched in echo. Prefer the "regular" one, but interesting to hear. Thanks for posting it up!

It isn't mentioned and an alternative version isn't included on the "Complete Motown Singles 1959-1961" box-set, so I guess it isn't particularly well known. I haven't heard the echo-version, but it would be really nice to hear if you could post up an MP3 perhaps?

Sorry, I can't help you with that Garden State Choir LP, but keep a lookout on eBay and a copy will most likely turn up. A copy sold for $9.29 buy-it-now only about a month ago. I don't end auctions early, so you'll have to place a bid via eBay for that Manhattans LP if you're interested in it.

Hello! I've listed a bunch of LPs on eBay. Check them out at: https://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ75QQfsooZ...QsassZpushkings Some examples: MILTON WRIGHT - Friends And Buddies - ALSTON SWEET CHARLES - For Sweet People - PEOPLE KAY ROBINSON - We Need Time - KING CYMANDE - Cymande - ALASKA UK MANHATTANS - Dedicated To You - CARNIVAL CHUCK JACKSON - Tribute To Rhythm And Blues - WAND JOYDAN PRINCE - Forever Hits - PRINCE MIAMI - Miami - DRIVE LIONEL HAMPTON - Stop! I Don't Need No Sympathy! - BRUNSWICK GWEN McCRAE - Gwen McCrae - RCA GERMANY PLEASE - Manila Thriller - LONDON LUTHER - Luther - COTILLION DYNAMICS - What A Shame - BLACK GOLD MEL CARTER - When A Boy Falls In Love - DERBY v/a - Jamaica Ska - ATLANTIC (BLUES BUSTERS / BYRON LEE etc.) ...plus more. Thanks for looking! Take care. /Sebastian

Can't help you out Gareth, but keep a lookout on eBay, they turn up every now and then and usually goes for about £40 each. The Dan Penn collectors market seems to have collapsed a bit lately. All 4 sides on those MGM 45s are superb in my opinion, especially "I Need Some One".

I've got a copy which I might be persuaded to part with, but as you hint at, that's one ridiculously rare 45. PM me with trades or cash offer.

I don't have the 45, but here's a scan of a photo copy of it which was posted on some forum a while ago:

These auctions ends in about 2-3 hours. Thanks for looking!

I'm glad you enjoy the LP. An odd release that one.

WOW! I never ever thought I would see that! One of my all-time fave ballads. Thanks for letting us know about this! Awesome!

I've put together an MP3-mix featuring tracks from my current auctions for those of you who don't have the time to dig through all of the eBay listings. And even for those of you who aren't interested in buying anything it should make for about 60 minutes of nice listening. SOUL / BOOGIE / FUNK / R&B MIX [listen here] Little Beaver - Listen To My Heartbeat - CAT Show Stoppers - Heartbreaker - BEACON UK Jon Thomas - Tizzy - JUNIOR Booker T. & The MG'S - Plum Nellie - STAX Millionaires - Never For Me - PHILIPS Louis (Blues Boy) Jones - Come On Home - SABRA Bobby Byrd - Back From The Dead - INTERNATIONAL BROTHERS Joe Quarterman - (I Got) So Much Trouble In My Mind - GSF Show Stoppers - Shake Your Mini - BEACON UK Joe Simon - Long Hot Summer - SOUND STAGE 7 Ivory Joe Hunter - Every Little Bit Helped Me - GOLDWAX Buck - It's Going To Be Alright - PLAYBOY Numonics - (Got To Give Love) One More Try - HODISK Maurice McCormick & Maji - 15 Minutes - ATOMIC ART Gwen McCrae - The Melody Of Life - CAT Jerri Richard - Goin' Away - ROYAL SHIELD George Perkins - What The Deal Is - GP Confidentials - Does He Really Love You - MASTERPIECE Pacettes - Don't Read The Letter - REGINA Ray Charles - I Don't Need No Doctor - ABC Mob - I'd Like To See More Of You - POLYDOR UK Johnny Griffith - Love Is Just A Word - GENEVA Billy Always - Just Not Enough - WAYLO George Perkins - Keep On Trying - GP Richmond Extension - Everything's Coming Up Love - SILVER BLUE

I'd like a copy of this 45 if anyone's selling. Please, PM me if so.

I did just that, but I think it's very nice with a lovely Gene Page arrangement. It is sorted amongst my pop singles though...

Bloody hell, you're right. My head is still smashed after the 8-hour DJing session I did yesterday... "Long Way" indeed is LP-only.

Yes it was: (and there are plenty of copies on eBay)

Hello! I've listed a bunch of 45s on eBay. There are labelscans and soundclips to all of them. Check them out at: https://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ75QQfsooZ...QsassZpushkings Some examples: LITTLE BEAVER on Cat ("Listen To My Heartbeat") SHOW STOPPERS on Beacon UK ("Heartbreaker", UK-only MONSTER!) GWEN McCRAE on Cat ("Melody Of Life") SOUL NOTES on Way Out ("Don't Make Me Beg") JON THOMAS on Junior ("Tizzy") MILLIONAIRES on Philips ("Never For Me") NUMONICS on Hodisk LOUIS JONES on Sabra ("Come On Home") MAURICE McCORMICK on Atomic Art LITTLE RICHARD on Okeh ("I Don't Want To Discuss It") BOBBY GUITAR BENNETT on Junior PACETTES on Regina BOBBY BYRD on International Brothers ("Back From The Dead") RAY CHARLES on ABC ("I Don't Need No Doctor") CONFIDENTIALS on Masterpiece JOHNNY DAVIS on Bandit IVORY JOE HUNTER on Goldwax JERRI RICHARD on Royal Shield ("Goin' Away") WILLIE CLAYTON on Kirstee JOE SIMON on Sound Stage 7 ("Long Hot Summer") GEORGE PERKINS on GP ...plus more. Thanks for looking! Take care. /Sebastian

Only about 2-3 hours left on these auctions now. Thanks for looking!

Yes that one was REALLY impressive. It regularly sells for £25-£35 on eBay.

Above you wrote about the releases as if they all were by the same band. I thought that you perhaps had been in touch with someone in the group(s?) and know for a fact that all of those 45s were recorded by the same group. I personally think that some (or all) are unrelated groups that by coincidence picked the same band name. Again, I'm not sure about this but just asked you in case you knew for sure. I only know the line-up for the Event group. Not really important as far as the music goes and all of the Determinations 45s I've heard have been good, I'm just interested.

Are you sure that the King, Event, Dolphin and Mainstream 45s were all recorded by the same group?

Off the top of my head... how about: New Orleans sounds PRELUDE label Early 80s CAPITOL releases Leroy Burgess related tunes etc. etc. etc.

I've never seen a #406 and I suspect that it doesn't exist. I've had three different copies of this 45, two demos and one issue and all of them have been Broadway 503. Only one of the demos plays the "Hold Back The Tears" track. One demo and one issue plays the proper "One More Try" and it's clearly sung by an entirely different singer. I'll post up a soundclip below. The b-side is the same on all issues. Some scans below. This is the "Hold Back The Tears" mispress demo: Correct "One More Try" demo: Correct "One More Try" issue:

It's a seriously superb tune. I've done quite some digging and searching and have checked out loads of tunes called "Hold Back The Tears" but as far as I know, that tune hasn't turned up on vinyl anywhere else apart from the mispressed Tommy Andre 45. Sounds a bit like Don Gardner singing to me.