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What an archive................. Just randomly picked out a mag, and this was big in Pittsburgh.. Some serious reading......... Ed

Yup, fittest guy on the bus, who just happened to be knelt up talking to Bub, on the wrong side at the wrong time, and it tipped due to taking the corner too quick on a reverse camber. Driver could not slow down, and the steering locked. Just a miracle nobody else died, although plenty with broken bones and scars. Bub's massive United tattoo gone in seconds. Bad memories all round. Ed

I was in that crash. 3 defective brakes, and 3 defective tyres. Bastards put us back on another 29 seater coach from the same company to take us home. Ed

Well for sure if you turn this topic into a tribute for Bub.....a thousand tales could be told. DJ 's the all dayers at Cleethorpes WG amongst many other venues, and you had no idea what was coming on next! The human zoo, I love music, Festival time....whatever he felt like, and the crowd loved him. Ed

Hard to imagine it's nearly 20 years ago the big fella passed away. Not sure what happened to his collection, but the records would have all been clean from him wiping them on his jumper before playing them. Can't imagine he would deface a record unless it was big money. Ed

Most records listed so far could be considered normal. UK releases, Motown imports, Atlantic//Stax/etc Perhaps had to find, but not unique. Now we are getting US labels like Soul Power and Mandingo stated as Wheel tunes. It must have been a big shift when that happened. No doubt some Wheelers may not have appreciated it, as presumably between 65 and 70 they must have been able to get their hands on most of the tunes played. I've also noted the inclusion of exclusivity, where you want to hear these new super rare records, you had to go to the event where the DJ was playing. That must have been a throwback to when the wheel first started playing the rare and hard to get UK dance records. You guys who lived through it from say 65 onwards were so lucky! Ed

So all the DJ's had records of this quality and rarity? It must have been the beginning of the end of playing 'normal' records easy to get etc Ed

Great record. Who played it, what year, and where was it likely to have come from? Just wondering when the rare stuff started to get played. Ed

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Which dj played this? Never seen this on any 'wheel list' or cd. Must have been a super rare find back then. Ed

Wheel tappers and shunters club more like:) But as others have said UK bands tried to copy USA bands, and some stuff is ok. Ed

From an earlier thread TWISTED WHEEL BRAZENOSE STREET MANCHESTER The 'old wheel' PLAY LIST and discography Please add your memories to this list. Blues years to RnB A Walk on the Wild side - Jimmy Smith (A favourite for the Last Record of the night) The Cat I'm a lover not a fighter - Lazy Lester Stateside 1958 Need your love so bad - Little Willie John Charly RnB USA Oh My Angel - Bertha Tillman Tell Him (Go to Him Run To Him) Exiters Fever - Little Willie John It Hurts Me Too - Elmore James Dust My Broom - Elmore James Help Me - Sunny Boy Williamson PYE (Yellow RnB label) Soulfull Dress - Sugar Pie Desanto Boogie Woogy - John Lee Hooker Crawlin Kingsnake Dimples Down home girl -Alvin Robinson Um um um um um -Major Lance I'm so Lost Hit the Road Jack - Ray Charles 10th and VineI'll Put a Spell On You Somethings Got A Hold On Me - Etta James I hear Voices Screaming Jay Hawkins I'll Put a Spell on You Nina Simone Down in the Basement Sugar Pie Desanto Something's got a hold on me Trouble in Mind Dinah Washington Willow Weep for Me You Shook Me Muddy Waters Mannish Boy Rolling Stone Hoochie Coochie Man Got My Mojo Working 40 Days 40 Nights Got To Get You Off My Mind Solomon Burke Cry To Me A Rose in Spanish Harlem - Ben E King (Black ATLANTIC label) I Who Have Nothing If You Need Me Everybody Needs Somebody To Love Down in the Valley In The Midnight Hour 6345789 Your So Fine Mercy Mercy-Wilson Picket STAX Green Unions - Booker T and the MG's Behave yourself (A favourite for the Last Record of the night) Outrage Chinese Checkers Hole in the Wall ( Booker T) Last Night The MarKeys I'll Come Running Back to You Sam Cooke Twistin the Night Away - Sam Cooke The Whole Worlds Shakin Shake Working on the Chain Gang The Sound of My Man (Working on the chain gang) - Theola Kilgore Night Train - James Brown Dead End Street - Lou Rawls The Duck Jack ie Lee Goin out of my Head - Little Anthony and the Imperials Gonna Fix You Good Something's got a hold on me Long After Tonight is all Over - Jimmy Radcliffe A Time to Love A Time to Cry - Lou Johnson Hey Girl -Freddie Scott Getting Mighty Crowded - Betty Everett Alvin Cash and the Registers/Crawlers Ed

Listen to the words...... Ed

I think in hindsight, your musical tastes and observations develop from say being a 14 year old to a 20 year old, so young kids who got fed on Marie Day, Gary Lewis, thought it was great, whilst the more mature kids were giving some serious WTF is this crap. Quality shines through and I'm sure the WORST of the Wheel, Torch, Mecca, Wigan, SAMs, Cleggy will never get rejuvenated, but the BEST will always stand the test of time. Who decides what fits where is another story, and great debate! Ed

Would it be correct to say that the Wheel played 'dance records' regardless of whether it was a black soul artist or not? Were the punters divided on this principle, or pretty much in agreement? The reason I ask is that when I joined 'the scene' around 76 and started going to nighters etc, it was apparent that records like Tim Tam, Peggy March, Muriel Day got a load of bad press because they simply were 'too poppy'. Nobody can deny they were 'danceable'. That seems to contrast the earlier scene with Scratchy, Fife Piper, and such like that have no 'soul' content, but great dancers. Ed

So, please tell me, any member who was there when TW Scratchy got played first, what the dancefloor reaction was? Heard this first around 76, and I've no idea why I love it? It's unique and mad as hell. Nothing much more 'fringe' ever been played than this. The breaking DJ must have had nerves of steel, banging this on after William Bell, Otis, Sam etc Ed

News to me...but I will look for it. Cheers Ed

No offence taken. Just fascinated by lots of stories about the wheel. The youngster showing up with unheard of gems is just one of them, and the willing jocks who gave them a spin is another. It was a progressive cutting edge venue at the start of a revolution in youth culture.... Patrons were truly blessed to have been part of it. Ed

Well Joey, as I stated I was never there, and only quoted a story I've read. If you were there from the late 60s up to the end, and witnessed his limited influence, then I accept your account. Ed

But the topic is about the Twisted Wheel, not a general topic, and my comment was about Levine's influence at that club. I also indicated if the mention of Levine's name effects the impact of the impact, so to say, call the new kid on the block Smith or Jones etc. I think the largest topic ever on this site was about Ian Levine, a couple of years ago, and I think every member and their granny commented. Ed

Seriously if you were djing now, and a kid turns up with a record like Hit and Run and you've probably never heard of the label or artist let alone the tune, and you take a chance and play it, and the dancefloor goes crazy AND it's not the first time it's happened, what would you think of that kid? Just trying to put perspective on the impact of tunes broke at the wheel, and how it happened. Forget the kids name was Levine.. Ed

I never went unfortunately but have bought a couple of cd's many years ago with supposedly some of the best tunes big at the wheel. I love the stories of this young kid called Levine showing up with tunes he had discovered whilst on holiday in the states and begging the dj's to give them a spin. Rose Batiste Hit and Run being one of them. What must they have thought of him? Priceless Ed

Massive a Cleggy..............Everybody bought this issue. Ed

Who said romance is dead? Ed

Crazy.... My mate is a mate of C5 up in Barrow. I bet he did not know that.... Ed