Benji

ok, I stand corrected. easy fellas. at least the french EP is a genuine 60s release whereas the US MGM one is technically a reissue.

Rock and Pop counterfeits is a HUUUGE market. Read an article in a magazine some time ago where they managed to talk to both manufacturers and distributors of these counterfeits. Talking about millions of euros and 100s of 1000s of records. Went to a local record fair last sunday. Plenty of dealers that boxes and boxes of what was labelled "new reissues" where it was more than just obvious they were counterfeits.

Huh? It‘s a well documented reissue/bootleg. Nothing exciting about it in my opinion.

Just looked it up on Discogs. Says 1975. Makes sense. For whatever reason both demo and issue of that Thunderbird 45 fetch three figures there.

SMALL DEEP SOUL 45s CLEARANCE SALE. 45s in desperate need of a new home. Some great tunes listed if I may say so, not a dull one among the lot. All records play graded and at least VG+ condition (Discogs grading) unless noted otherwise. Prices in Euro. Please PM for further details --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ann Peebles - Walk Away - Hi Records (Promo) €4 Arthur Conley - I'm a lonely stranger - Jotis Records - lbls reversed,looks rough but plays nice VG €8 Barbara Mason - I am your woman, she is your wife - Prelude €2 Bettye Swann - I'm Just Living A Lie - Fame €10 Brenda Jo Harris - She'll Snatch Him - Better - Nice VG €3 Candi Staton - I'll Sing A Love Song To You/You never really wanted me - Honest Jon's (M-, with P/S) €3 SOLD Carol Frederick - Where I Oughta Be - Stonel W/D €4 SOLD Clarence Reid - Something special about my baby - Tay-Ster (looks rough but plays nice VG) €3 Erma Franklin - Saving My Love For You - Brunswick (w/ company sleeve) €6 Jackie Wilson - No More Goodbyes - Brunswick €3 Jimmy Hughes - I Worship The Ground You Walk On - ATCO (Canada) (obscure canadian release. this is the actual Discogs entry copy. some label discoloration, orig company sleeve) €4 Johnny Adams - Showdown - Ric €4 Johnny Gilliam - Won't Someone Help Me/(instr vers) - Paula W/D €5 Kim Tolliver - Let Them Talk / I'll Try To Do Better - Rojac €5 Marva Lee - Can't We Talk It Over - ATCO (3 cm label edge damage, minor label wear, vinyl fine plays nice VG) €10 Maxine Brown - Reason to believe - Commonwealth United D/J €10 Maxine Brown - We'll Cry Together - Commonwealth United €5 Milt Matthews - This is my song - H & L (w/ orig company sleeve) €2 Paul Kelly - Cryin' for my baby - Philips UK (orig company sleeve) €12 Tony Borders - You Are My Treasure - Hall W/D (great bluesy flip) €15 Tony Borders - Cheaters Never Win - Revue (fantastic double sider) €5 Troy Keyes - I'm cryin' inside - ABC W/D (uptempot flip, orig company sleeve) €15 Wallace Johnson - On My Way Back Home / I Miss You Girl - RCA D/J (some label damage, plays nice VG) €10 Willie Hightower - Easy Lovin' - Mercury W/D (orig company sleeve) €3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paypal only, Friends&Family preferred but not mandatory. Please PM for further details Standard postage 1-5 Within EU €6.00/outside EU €9.00/(Germany on enquiry) Standard postage 5/more Within EU €10.50/outside EU €13.50/(Germany on enquiry)

Dobie Gray on Thunderbird is a US reissue (?) from the 1970s.

SPYDER TURNER – I’M ALIVE WITH A LOVIN’ FEELING + 3 – MGM FRANCE EP EX £200 SOLD Only way to have this storming Detroit dancer on 45. Vinyl EX, sleeve EX but some woc on back. A.C. REED – MY BABY’S BEEN CHEATING – COOL VG++ £150 R&B classic, plays fine, close to EX. Labels clean. CASH McCALL - LOVE YOU FOREVER/SOMETHING ABOUT YOU - COLUMBIA (ISSUE!) NM £30 Lovely ballad flipside only available on this very rare issue. CASH McCALL - I'M IN DANGER/SOS - CHECKER EX £25 Great underrated storming Northern Soul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postage Flat Rate: Germany to UK £8 (standard) or £11 (signed for). Payment Paypal only. Thanks for looking!

FOR TRADE ONLY: NEVILLE BROTHERS (aka Ivan Neville) - DANCE YOUR BLUES AWAY - COOKIE (w/ picture sleeve) - 400 GBP Sleeve and record in lovely EX condition. No flaws apart from a small sticker on the sleeve. Both side correctly labelled. Comes with the ultra rare picture sleeve which proves that this 45 was actually credited to the Neville Brothers and not just Ivan Neville like most think. As good as this record is I've grown a bit tired of it recently. So I'd like to trade it for 1 or 2 other Modern 45s of equal value. Anyone up to it? Please PM for further discussions

Fantastic news. "sing yeah" has been a firm favourite of mine ever since I heard it on a Rob Marriott tape back in the early 90s.

gentle update bump

LOVE YOU FOREVER/SOMETHING ABOUT YOU - COLUMBIA (ISSUE!) NM £30 Lovely ballad flipside only available on this very rare issue. I'M IN DANGER/SOS - CHECKER EX £25 Great underrated storming Northern Soul. MORE POWER TO YOU/I'LL ALWAYS LOVE YOU - PS EX £30 SOLD Funky uptempo dancer b/w fantastic sweet soul ballad. Labels bit worn (see pic) IT'S NOT HOW GOOD YOU MAKE IT/WE'VE COME A LONG WAY TOGETHER - CHECKER Strong VG+ £4 Plays really fine. Real winning double sider. midtempo b/w fantastic ballad. I NEED YOUR LOVE/JUNKIE FOR YOUR LOVE - PAULA (WD) VG+ £3 funky midtempo blues from 1974 LET'S GET A THING GOIN ON/YOU CAN'T TAKE LOVE - THOMAS VG £3 His very first 45. Midtempo b/w uptempo. Nice vinyl press. Plays fine. xol/wol/sol on a-side.flip clean STOOP DOWN/INSTR - RONN VG-/EX £3 scratch on both sides causes clicking noise in intro, EX otherwise ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postage Flat Rate: Germany to UK £8 (standard) or £11 (signed for). Payment Paypal only. Thanks for looking!

Maybe via publisher's acetate? I understand that was a common way for them to promote their songs.

Many thanks for explaining AI and ChatGPT in this context. Was thinking about doing something like this myself but struggled to find the right words (mind, english is not my first language). I think the most important feature about this AI is that it doesn't just return any information available on the internet 1:1. ChatGPT is not a search engine (even though search engines are also AI). It reads information, analyzes it and draws it conclusions. I use AI in my daily work. But only very basic AI's to detect clusters in big data. I find ChatGPT both fascinating and frightening.

Both sides of the Sheryl 45 were re-released on UK Beacon and german Polydor around 69/70.

And he missed another release of the "good version", german Metronome. Never take Manship as gospel.

You‘re absolutely right. Modern day press. Pretty obvious. Have to admit I never look closer at the label scan on Discogs. Should have done so.

Many thanks! here's just a YT vid for reference in case anyone's interested in hearing Betty's version. Very sparse compared to Ben's take. But yet fully produced so not a demo take. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUwdvqrcQiU

Betty Everett - No place to hide Sparse but nice cover version of Ben E. King. Does anyone know what the first vinyl release was? Discogs lists a 45 on Sherry Hill but that 45 looks like a boot to me. I guess first ever release was on a 1977 best of comp. Discogs entry for the 45: https://www.discogs.com/de/release/2876113-Betty-Everette-No-Place-To-Hide-People-Around-Me Discogs entry for the compilation: https://www.discogs.com/de/release/7177491-Betty-Everett-Woman-With-Soul

Sorry, have deleted my post. Was inappropriate.

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Ernest Baker rather reasonable me thinks.

EULA COOPER - STANDING BY LOVE/I NEED YOU MORE - NOTE (EX) £80 Crossover classic. The fantastic slower flipside plays a nice VG++, just shy of EX. A few hardly audible scratches for the first few seconds ANTHONY WATSON - I CAN'T STOP THIS FEELING - SRO (EX) £30 Nice midtempo dancer from 1984. label bit bubbly and slightly worn. Vinyl looks VG+ but plays well above grade. THE BLEU LIGHTS - THEY DON'T KNOW MY HEART - BAY SOUND (VG) £25 Very small edge chip NAP. Plays lovely. Small wol on flip. JOE TEX - I'VE GOT A SONG/THE NEXT TIME SHE'S MINE - MICHELLE (EX) £10 R'n'B b/w Beat ballad. Quality doublesider. Small dh THE TAMS - HEY GIRL DON'T BOTHER ME (+3) - SINGAPOREAN PROBE EP (EX) £10 Very rare and obscure release. Not listed on Discogs. Never seen another copy before. Sleeve slightly damaged top right corner JIMMY RUFFIN - WHAT BECOMES BROKENHEARTED/BABY I'VE GOT IT - DUTCH TAMLA-MOTOWN (VG+) £8 Such a cool looking sleeve. Record has minor wol and sol. Looks VG but plays much better. THE JUMPING JACKS - JAY WALK - GERMAN YUM YUM (M-) £5 Very obscure but excellent Jazz Funk. Apparently released only in germany. Fantastic condition. Postage Flat Rate: Germany to UK £8 (standard) or £11 (signed for). Payment Paypal only. Thanks for looking!

Just been told #12 is Jimmy Wilson - Inside out. So all sorted now. Many thanks to all who helped!

Managed to nail down #32, Ricky Lance - Super strong #12 anyone?

Such a loss. One of the greatest voices in Soul music.