Len

Btw, my first 'taste' of such a thing was when I read the back of the Destiny L.P 'The Record Collector', where it stated things like 'Arin Demain - Silent Treatment' - First played by Soul Sam at......etc. At the time I don't think I knew who Soul Sam was (or any of the D.J's mentioned) but I remember it absolutely intrigued me, so I guess that is where my interest stemmed from. All the best, Len

I've always been very interested in who discovered records (also credit where credit's due) Then after that (and they are two very different things) who broke the records, as in who managed to 'sell' them to the dance floor, because that bit can take some doing. Again, credit where credit's due for doing so. Nothing sinister or political in this, I just find it interesting. All the best, Len

I'm on it Len

Well said mate. I'm also finding it interesting - This threads situation is purely and simply someone wanting to hire a venue to celebrate their Birthdays (Happy Birthday btw) which it seems, unfortunately resulted in confrontation when a nice chat would have sorted it. Putting the Birthday Party situation to one side for a moment (and to streeeetch the thread out as long as humanly possible) - looking back over a number of years, no one would dream of approaching a venue to hold a Soul event that was already being used for that reason by somebody else - That person has the Soul events covered there. 'Defensive' is the correct word, as in to defend the event by 'batting off' anything that would effect it - this especially includes someone else putting on another event because doing so 'muddies the water', and worse could confuse the punters when they are not the same 'product' (Worries being that this second person's event could put people off going back to the first persons event) That 'defence' was never needed a few years ago - there was a lot more communication between promoters about dates - Nowadays, there's a lot more promoters, and less communication (or burying ones head in the sand!) All the best, Len

No one wins though - I feel for ya mate All the best, Len

He better not! :D Len

Yeh I know - We have it covered! ......I was leaning towards him using the 'Charm offensive' Len

Ok it was 'very very' badly worded All the best, Len

Hello mate, Yes that was very badly worded on my part, and it would be ridiculous to expect someone to apologise for doing nothing wrong. I meant give the guy a call saying something like...."Hi mate, sorry for the confusion ref using the venue where you hold your Soul Nights, I didn't realise there would be an issue, can we sort something on this, maybe a date far enough away from your event?"......etc. That sort of thing. All the best, Len P.s - As was stated earlier in the thread - Promoting really is a murky world!

My advice would be - to speak to the said promoter again, apologise for 'stepping on his toes' (so to speak) and maybe include him in the D.J line up (simply as a matter of respect of the fact that he may be a bit 'precious' about it)…If you still get a sh*tty response, then go ahead with your plans at the venue, and I will gladly D.J for you for no charge! All the best, Len N.B - The above is worded extremely badly - See future posts (we have it covered!)

Hello mate, Firstly, let me make this absolutely clear - You have done absolutely nothing wrong what so ever, the promoter (if they had an issue) should have spoken to you amicably, and I'm sure it would have been sorted there and then. I was presuming this event was well known in a "Ady (Croasdell) I'm thinking of having my 50th Birthday Party at The 100 Club - What the f*ck are you gonna do about it?"....kinda way ...If that makes sense! All the best, Len.

Yes, I know exactly what you mean / it's not 'a load of rubbish', and I know it seems absolutely ridiculous (especially as you pointed out, invite only), but all it is, is a matter of manners......In saying this, I'm talking 15 years ago, let's be honest - the calendar, and venues (probably) are just a free for all nowadays anyway - Not meant as a dig, it's just the way it is now. These things are made much easier if both sides see the others point of view - As I said, there was no call for the promoter to be rude or defensive because you obviously have all good intensions, so I think that bad start is most probably the end of your correspondence (which is a shame) All the best, Len

If someone is already using the venue, I personally think the done thing is to speak to them first, and maybe ask if they can incorporate your wishes in an event (or work together at least) It isn't a matter of being a baby, it is a matter of respect (and I don't mean in a contrived way) I have had this situation many times over the years, and it just so happens, the said peope have approached me before the venue because they were aware it was the venue I use, and every time, I returned that respect (consideration more so) by working together, and helping as much as I could. There's more to it than 'throwing ones dummy out' No offence intended - That is the way I see it, and best of luck with your event mate. If what I say happens to make you have a rethink and you approach the said promoter with this in mind, I bet you they will do everything they can to help you - It's so much nicer All the best, Len P.s - Also good luck with raising money for Charity (obviously), but that doesn't make any difference to how I think things should be approached P.p.s - It's a shame the person in question was rude to you, as you seem like the kind of person who would understand his objections, if spoken to properly, and no doubt would have sorted something amicably there and then - Good luck mate

Doh! Len

Hu'f*ckin'rray!.....I thought it was just me turning into my Dad!.........My 5 year old Daughter makes better sounds when playing Drums with Sauspans - Seriously! I can not see the 'skill' in just making noise. IMHO of course All the best, Len

Coincidently, last night I had a long conversation about D.J's that me and my mate thought great - They all had one thing in common, and that is they were 'quirky'. The records don't D.J, they do, they have a skill and an attraction that stands them apart from the rest (Infectious is the word I think) All the best, Len

I think the timing between records is very important, and when to talk / not to talk (just enough) or a set can come across as stilted. A few times at my own events, I've rushed up to the decks because I thought they had broken down.......That'll teach me not to give mates spots (It was the pressure they put me under I tell you!) All the best, Len

I wish - Try finding a decent welder that's looking for work.......and as for a young decent welder - impossible! ........These young welders don't seem to realise they need to start from the bottom completing their apprenticeship, before they're gonna get any of the good jobs All the best, Len

I do. Len

Here's a thread I started a while ago that links to this nicely - It has a slightly different take, more focusing on 'nurturing' the Scene carefully (I think some may find of interest) All the best, Len

.....Still watching you......... Len

...and a personality maybe? Not aimed at you Simsy as I gather from your postings you would agree - A C.D of tunes doesn't mean you can D.J / Choose the right moment to put an appropriate tune on. A D.J should be asked on merit alone - If not, it all gets a bit desperate. IMHO of course! All the best, Len P.s - No matter what age.

'Johnnie Hoyle - What About Me'......Just brilliant. Double that price if got more plays - IMHO of course! All the best, Len