Epic

That's because you go to OVO venues.

Think how many times you have heard Frank Wilson without Kenny Burrell or Tim Brown behind the decks - & then think how many times you have seen someone go over to the DJ to complain - let me hazard a guess - NEVER!!! Sums up the scene & this thread how it really is & not some rare soul Utopia which has never existed & never will.

145 posts on this thread - what difference is it going to make to the Northern soul scene this weekend & any other subsequent weekend. Absolutely zero!!!!

This thread is one singing the praises of original vinyl. CDs & carvers are not original vinyl.

I always thought OVO meant exactly that - not OVO but.................. I will tell you 101 reasons why there are exceptions!!

I have said on here many times - carvers are bootlegs - no matter how many times anybody tries to justify the reason they are OK to play. Best one is "I don't want to carry an LP around with me" - what total bo**ox is that!!

This thread tends to rear its ugly head every couple of months & quite frankly it never actually changes or achieves anything IMHO. No doubt that in the next couple of weeks there will be "Wigan Anniversary" nights up & down the country - they will be well attended - they will not be "pushing the envelope" - they will play, no doubt, overplayed oldies. Will they all be on original vinyl ? doubtful - & I don't think the paying punters will really care. Give it another 6-8 weeks & we can debate all this - AGAIN!!!!!!

The Javells charted in November 1974. Maxine Nightingale charted in November 1975 The original Nosmo King Pye 7" was possibly released 6-9 months earlier than November 1974.

Maxine Nightingale was recorded AFTER Nosmo King - that's unless he incorporates clairvoyancy into his act.

Of the current crop - "Foolish Girl" C/U has been played for quite a while now - although quite a lot of dealers/DJs know who it is.

Of the current crop - "Foolish Girl" C/U has been played for quite

Think my days of asking Ian Levine anything are now behind me!!!

While we are on the subject of British "soul" music - does anbody else remember Martyn Ellis at The Ritz (circa'76/77) playing a record by Rainbow Cottage called "Let Me Make You A Woman" I hazard a guess that he played it for a bet - has to be one THE worst records ever played.

Come on peeps - Boz Scaggs or Mickey Moonshine ? I know where my vote goes!!

Feel free to look at post number 2 on this thread!!!!!!!!

Lost your credibility as a true "baggy" - you failed to include "a bit of Frankie Wilson" - as I was once asked for at a gig. What "bit of Frankie Wison" do you think he wanted ?

This is just a blatant plug for your mix!!!!!!!!!!!! - yes I have downloaded it - most enjoyable. Baggy House - Urban Blues Project - "Love Don't Live"

Judging by the amount of interest on this site in that wonderful slab of "soul" music - Mickey Moonshine has to be in there.

Judy Freeman & Blackrock - Hold On - RCA

What a talent - so many great sides he was involved with. Absolutely love "Cool Off" a tune to brighten up anyones life. Respect to you Richard "Popcorn" Wylie.

The point I am making is that these artists don't sound like they did nearly 40 years ago - when they were in some pokey studio in Detroit or Chicago recording on a mixer that would be laughed at nowadays. I am not knocking what Ian did I am just pointing out that it is naive to think that these artists can still cut it in a recording studio without a huge amount of studio wizardry - which they didn't have or need all those years ago.

In fairness Ian I think people have made their own minds up about the vocals on some of the tracks on SWONS videos. Whether they are the truly new vocals only you & the people involved in the studio genuinely know. I have watched the Eddie Parker - "Love You Baby" video & I cannot believe that 30 years after the original that Mr Parker would sound as much like the original without a little "help" from a sound engineer- even the original uh's are in there - but not actually coming out of his mouth in the video. This is not a dig at you Ian but I just wish you would treat us all with a bit more intelligence - it comes across as insulting. I understand that some of the ageing artists must have been struggling - I don't mind if they did mime - it is such a joy to see these artists that it doesn't matter to me - but to talk about adding syllables etc is just semantics. Let's just agree that some of the artists had a little "help" from the original recording & leave it at that.

Good job they didn't build a golf course,swimming baths or graveyard on the "hallowed" (sic) site. Northern & rare soul will be better appreciated hopefully,(if at all) when our generation is long gone. The thought of geriatric soul fans celebrating Wigan Casino's 57th anniversary in a shopping mall makes my blood run cold. Some forward thinking promoter should open a "Northern Soul Retirement Home" where toothless,balding, incontinent (& that's just the women ) old soulies could sit round a piano while "Matron" belts out "Elijah Rocking With Soul" - because "the old dears" like to reminisce.

Don't see many copies of "Yes I Love You Baby" - The Dynamics - where does that sit in the list of rarities?