Hammie

So sorry to hear what happened, there are some desperate ar**holes out there. I have to say as long as your happy it really don't matter, good luck to ya. Just look after this one. Me I'd just be happy with a copy on SANSU

Agent double o soul is a hard one.....

THINK POTTSY HAS GOT A TRUE IMAGE BOB YOU COULD ALWAYS GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM HE MIGHT LET IT GO ?

Got my second copy of ebay a couple of months ago $70-00 buy it now I thought that was a bargain !!!!!

You got both then Steve

Hi there, there's two Willie Hutch - Soul Portrait albums on Discogs at present (That's where I got mine from)

Have you got these as well....Z Z Hill, Eddie Holman, Brenda & the Tabulations, Melvin Davis, Bobby Williams, Bobby Patterson ? Just did'nt realise 'Take it Baby' was as rare as The Rubaiyats and the ones I mentioned here !!!!

Got a Swan Demo of this to upgrade from my old black issue. The copy I got was mint minus 'buy it now' for $19-99 and it was on Ebay all the week of Mr Manship's auction UK copy. I watched as the price went up !!!!! but nobody even bothered with the Demo I bought ? I know what I would prefer to pay.....

Anyone know if this is or has ever been on vynil ? Did Ady ever put it out on a Kent single ? Quality tune like 'Getting to me' should be on vynil surely, or was there a good reason why Ady never did ? I would love a copy tho'

Hi there I have PM'd you

Was just thinking about the amazing high price that the Tomangoes has been going for that's all. Not really worried about any more turning up, there must be a few anyway, I've had two over the years !!!! Phonetics not that rare either, not for paying £3000 surely (I know it was a clean copy tho') Mine cost me a third of this one and that was when it had a bit of a revival and was being played a lot a few years ago

To be fair, If you look at the Stanton deck in the top picture you can see by the screw positions that the cartridge has been set up 'angled in' to the centre spindle try to attain a tangential position for the stylii in the record grooves.

Gene-R is quite correct, the original 'released' copies were 'The LAWS of Love, pale blue labels with black print I think. Black and white promos were also issued with the right title 'The LAWS of Love' promo, sometimes like a lot of Arctic records, were pressed as a one sided record. The incorrectly and rare mistitled 'The RULES of Love' promo ONLY got pressed up as a one sided record I think.....like mine that I found in N.Orleans a few years back with RULES crossed out .....result

Yeah , I thought that was a classic Russ, surprised the guy didn't say 'do you like sex and travel'

IS THE PHONETICS ON EBAY SALES AT PRESENT GONNA BE THE NEXT 'TOMANGOES' 2 BIDDERS GOING AT IT AND UP TO OVER $4000 WITH OVER 2 DAYS TO GO I'M TEMPTED TO SELL MINE.....‌

Still dont agree that the stylus ever tracks 'perfectly' even with the set up as you talk about above because as I said the tone arm is fixed at one end and has to sweep across the record therefore the tracking angle will vary from start to finish of the record. Sure the set up can 'optimise' the tracking to give the shallowest variation in tangential angle but using a conical stylii I think in the cartridge assembly would give the best audible reproduction and least chance of record groove damage. At the end of the day I think the most important thing is to ensure that what ever decks your using and who ever they belong to if the owners of these decks have rare records then the chances are that if they are resonsible they will ensure that the bits touching the records will be in good condition so there should be no damage to your records or there's. If it helps, I have DJ'd on and off for 40 years and have only ONCE had damage done to 2 Styrene records (The DJ equipment belonged to a non soulie who hand'nt got a clue about rare soul records) so I ended up with a f**ked Cindy Scott Veep and Dynamics Top ten issues Anyway I dont know why your too worried, that copy of Big Frank and the Essence on your SS picture looks well F**ked

Sorry I dont get what the fuss is all about here I think you are being a bit pedantic ? Surely the part that is in contact with the record is the extreme end of the stylii, what shape is the end of the stylii, surely it is conicle if you look at it under a magnifying glass. So if you have an upturned cone in a vee shape groove and the cone shape remains in the vertical plane what effect has the horizontal angle of the tone arm got to do with possibly damaging the record groove ? I think there are two ways of looking at the angle of the tone arm, If you have a bent tone arm such that when it is cued up at the start then the cartridge/stylii appears tangential to the grooves. However when this shape of arm gets to the end of the record the cartridge/stylii is turned 'inwards'. The Stanton deck above just simply does the opposite, the tone arm cartridge/stylii will be turned 'outwards' as the record is cued up BUT the tone arm angle will improve and cartridge/stylii become tangential as the playing of the record progresses. The tone arm pivot point (opposite end to the stylii) is fixed therefore there will always be a sweep angle, this is obviously greater on an LP or a 12"

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Hello everybody on here !!!!! Pete's post here above is dead right..... end of. AND THERE ARE NO STYRENE RE-RELASES I have the black print thicker vynil re-release which I bought from J.A. in the late seventies for a £1-00 and still have it. If there were black print originals then John Anderson would have known and said so. If I recall looking at the blue print originals, the outer edge run in is slightly tapered. On the black print re-issue the outer edge run in is flat and the edge of the record is blunt or squared off

Here's a few items at reasonable prices (depending on condition)...... But all records play well and are out of my DJ box MARTHA STARR - NO PART TIME LOVE FOR ME - THELMA (VG+) £80-00 FANTASTIC EPICS - LET'S GET TOGETHER - KELTON (VG) £80-00 great stuff SOLD FLAIRS - YOU GOT TO STEAL IT - R A P (VG++) £80-00 SOLD RON & EMBRACERS - YOU CAME INTO MY HEART - SPECTRUM (VG++) £70-00 lovely mid tempo with in demand latin on other side VIC & THE CATALINAS - TALKIN ABOUT MY GIRL - BAR CLAY (M-) £50-00 KELLY BROTHERS - CRYING DAYS ARE OVER - SIMS WDJ (M-) £40-00 nice on a demo SOLD WALTER JACKSON - IT'S AN UPHILL CLIMB TO THE BOTTOM - OKEH WDJ (VG+) £50-00 all time classic LOU LAWTON - I'M SEARCHING - CAPITOL (VG+) £25-00 O'JAY'S - I DIG YOUR ACT - BELL DJ (VG++) £30-00 a lot, lot harder than the common issue's ON HOLD PM me if your interested in any Cheers Hammie

Green with dark blue print label and vinyl playing surface original £500 - £750 Geen with black print label and thicker vinyl playing surface re-issue £80 - £100

What a fantastic record THE VISITORS is..... hope you dont regret selling it !!!!

Got a spare VG to VG+ copy if anyone is interested