Chalky

First issue. The boot is just two coloured and one has The Duck on the flip, that was a release of his. There is another boot with the right flip but again it is two coloured not three.

https://www.45cat.com/record/9us Several variations as it was a good seller

Everyone entitled to an opinion mate. Some of the stories, people just look at you in disbelief

I guess for most we pine for the scene as it once was. A fabulous place to be, with an edge, a sense of trepidation and anticipation of the night to come. It was the travelling to hear music you couldn't hear at home or on a tape you swapped, travelling to hear a certain Dj. Dancing to these records lost in a world that took you away from the weekly pressure of life. Digging through all the records on offer form the dealers, looking at all the markings and stamps, names and credits, a real thirst for knowledge in an attempt to be on the same level as your peers or to get one step ahead of the other collectors/Djs. Now? Everyone is obsessed with looking like a soulie, a style of fashion that was prevalent for a couple of years in the mid 70s and had disappeared by the 80s. The dancers more interested in throwing themselves about than actually dancing. What I said above wasn't a dig at anyone just an observation and the difference between when I first began this journey and today. People danced to the record with the moves replicating the beat and the breaks, not anymore, as I said they aren't dancing. I still love to watch good dancers, good footwork especially. Far too many are obsessed with the look and the fashion when the scene was never one to follow fashion, it was about the music and the friendships forged. Record bars are virtually dead with most buying from their armchair after getting the answers to questions online rather than learning by handling the records. No longer are tapes, well CDs swapped, hearing records you over looked or not in favour with Djs. For the vast majority it is the same few hundred records (if that) replicated on the newest CD release, the same titles on a dozen CDs before them and the same records they hear week in week out from the same Djs with nothing new or imaginative to offer all promoted by the same promoters week in week out who don't have the imagination to see a bigger picture and take what they can while they can (that is all the promoters virtually up and down the country not anyone in particular). Djs who spend ridiculous amounts on not so rare records, it is all about who can spend the most rather than using some imagination for which the scene would be a better place. Dancers who daren't go on the floor to something they haven't heard a 100 times for fear of putting a foot out of place. There is some great youngsters out there, Jordan & Charlotte, Ethan and more. They have the same enthusiasm we did and it isn't about looking like a soulie, they have a thirst to learn, to dig for records and to dance, many of them properly. But they are few and far between on the nighter scene that is largely dominated by those described in the title of this topic. That is what I mean by the scene being a parody of what it was was, It is a pale imitation of a great underground dance culture. I'm not bitter nor salty, I still have an great appetite for the music, to learn and share any knowledge with anyone but I often go out and wonder WTF am I doing here at 2 or 3 in the morning after enduring a boring few hours of records I've heard a million times. If anyone is guilty of not moving on it isn't me.

it is just a parody of what it once was full of people who are only interested in themselves and what they can from it and not what they can give to it

I totally agree they can do what they want on the dance floor, never said otherwise.

since when? I wasn't judging either, if I was someone else would have won 😂

I know Stuart well mate but not sure of his youtube moniker

But it is basically a northern soul forum not soul. Almost everything about it is towards the scene.

Well I’m buying many records performed by artists in their later years, including modern.

King Bee not Northern is it, its an R&B club so not my usual kinda haunt. Haven’t the foggiest who lancashire agogo is.

I don’t really remember any of the others being played, not on the northern scene, maybe ghe odd time out of curiosity after hearing Pretty Boy. It was no secret when Pretty Boy got played what the records were made for as the sleeves were for promo purposes.

Pretty Boy was the one that has had most plays.

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Its been around 150 or so for quite sometime. Not that much demand hence the price staying stable.

Sure it has been discussed on here in the past Mike. The one I’m referring to isn’t Tony Turner on Musicor but a Motown acetate (?) of a vocal to 6*6.

Not quite sure about the death of the scene but yes it has changed and continued to change. It went through the 80s with little intrusion from the outside and went back underground only to re-emerge in the 90s and commercialisation continued unabated into what it is today, largely a parody of what it once was.

The one played out is a genuine motown press that John Pugh owns isn’t it, played it at 100 Club. Terrible too.

Watch this on silence and I wouldn’t have believed they were dancing to Epitome of Sound, the guy in the middle especially. Don’t get me wrong they got the moves but they aren’t dancing, just doing tricks. There used to be a time and a place to do the spins and tricks in a record but now it is all the way through and totally out of rhythm to the record in question. I know its a dance comp but give me a proper dancer with good footwork who does the tricks and spins in the breaks and appropriate places or preferably just one with classy footwork As I said great at the tricks as are a lot but they ain ‘t dancing anymore.

For those who need to put a face to the name....

I don't disagree but many don't travel. It is very regional with many. You go to a venue and still the large majority are nearer and some have one foot in the grave than the nappy. Also will they be there when commitments come calling, work house and a family etc etc? I hope it does continue in whatever capacity and shape others see fit, no other music comes close nor the lifelong friendships you make.

But a helluva lot who went to nighters did drink before the niter, on the coach, at a nicer warm up etc. To say there was never any beer (I know you don 't but other have and still do) is way off the mark.

Take those out who have been around the block and leave just the youngsters and you won't have enough to run a nighter, not of those who travel anyway. They make up a fraction of the scene. Don't get me wrong, they are all enthusiastic, energetic and many have a deeper love for the music, collecting etc. But there isn't enough to sustain a future, not as we know it today. Maybe that isn't a bad thing, change is as good as a rest so they say and maybe it will have to change to some degree to carry on?

A other two hours great listening from Dean's special guest Stuart Cosgrove. Educational but entertaining, just how it should be.

someone slap him 🙄😂