Chalky

People have been caught out, but not for long, that is the crux of this. I doubt you would catch out the experienced dealer or a collector who knows what tell tale signs to look for. Those that this type of market is or would be aimed at by the looks of the bootleg/carver market don't seem to care anyway so why go to the trouble of trying to replicate something which is practically impossible to do. As said the inks, paper and vinyl have changed tremendously since the 60's. Methods alone are very different let alone the ingredients. And the cost involved trying to attempt something like this would far outweigh the returns. As soon as a minter appears on ebay, questions are asked, as soon as a second or third copy appears chances are whoever has been rumbled, real or not. You have to remember people watch nothing but ebay, sales lists, forum sales etc, they can spot anomalies a mile off.

I'd sooner go into a pub or a shop and hear the soundtrack to the film than some of the dirge they often inflict upon us. I can't remember the last time I heard Suspicion in a venue?

There is probably more to be made out of crappy boots than there is any high class forgery/counterfeit.

You only have to see something listed twice on ebay before thers is a topic on here and questions asked. It is one of the most mistrusting markets there is and I doubt there are any records worth going to the kind of trouble and hassle you metion above. Suspicions would be raised and probably proven very quickly.

I would have thought many ingredients in ink have changed completely, I know paint is completely different to what it was 10 years ago due to health and safety legislation never mind 30/40 years ago. I would think that anything done today to deceive would soon be rumbled no matter how good. I also think someone would have done it by now if it was profitable.

Its a great record, one of Motown's greatest and will always be a great record. One I will never tire of.

One of my all time favourite 'SOUL' ballads along with Dark End Of The Street and Eddie Parker's But If You must Go.

Can't disagree, every era has its share of casualties and turkey's that succeeded despite, in retrospect being very poor or even worse. Like you say, one good thing about this scene is always someone willing to dig that little bit deeper and dig out that one, two spin wonders and give them another go. Incites extremely rare though and suffers maybe because of its obscurity, as do many records.

Cheers Kev, nice to know who and when etc. I know Minsh was playing it early 80's. Why did it bomb btw? Tempo too slow?

I was told Seven Souls was played at Torch and Wigan but didn't take off till getting on a decade later??

Oh really useful box do a larger one that holds 200 45's and one for lps as well

I've recommended the really useful box for sometime. About the same size as cardboard counterpart but obviously much stringer and waterproof. You can get them in different colours if you wish to clour code your record storage

I was wondering which one we were talking about

https://www.discogs.com/James-Brown-JBs-Give-Me-Some-Skin-People-Wake-Up-And-Live/release/5076291

it's the flip of Give Me Some Skin

Nothing is impossible but the outlay compared to the returns would probably be off putting. Besides tracking down original vinyl, paper and especially inks would be extremely difficult if not nigh on impossible.

Sad time, thoughts with his family and friends. R.i.P. Baz.

Speak to the Dig Deeper guys, some great footage of his appearance there.

Triple B it's cheap as chips but the deepie on the flip of the MAM release is simply awesome.

Gotta say fabulous selection of records.

I have listened to both shows whilst driving today, superb both of them with some quite pleasant choices. Nice to see the BBC making an effort. The Atlantic Records Story, the two Sam Cooke shows and now this.

Ooh pedantry What if it is pressed with the 3rd, 5th or 25th offspring stamper? Are those only done with the first set of stampers the original? What happens if it was recorded in the US but never released yet picked up by a UK label Some people like to come out with all sorts of b*llocks and confuse an already grossly confused scene for the sake of it You can't do one press to satisfy all countries, they have to be done independently. Therefore each country it is pressed and released in is the first issue of that territory. A re-issue is a later press to satisfy renewed interest and demand in a record. I don't think anyone else in the world considers London issue a re-issue Now please someone close the topic

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He is very much into "Northern", a collector and an old Wigan boy. He got in touch with John to say so.

Everyone's idea of collecting and what and how they collect is different though. UK releases have held little interest to me over the years, much preferring to collect on the US release as after all US Soul music is what I collect. Each to their own, I'd ,such prefer the Revolt demo, yes I'd love to find one of these London Issues but it would be sold PDQ to fund more of what interested me.